Board Thread:Role Ideas (Rework)/@comment-33068359-20170917081131/@comment-33686221-20170917121509

LOLZ1337 wrote: Framer is arguably one of THE most useless mafia roles in my opinion. There are very few instances where a frame is successful and even when it is, it can be easily disproven.

Lets be honest, Framer is only noticed in classic mode.

What if the framer could decide what to frame a target as instead of the usual Framer/Vamp/Jest result, and what if they could "frame" members of the mafia, making them appear as not sus? This also messes up spies and breaks the "mafia cannot visit mafia" rule.

That would be good, but the mechanics may be hard to implement in game

This is how I would envision it working: Framer gets a GUI similar to the Hypotist's with a list of all the investigative results. Never mind then. You select one and your target will have that investigative result for the night. Additionally beside each result that is NOT detection immune (BG/GF/Arso and Surv/VH/Witch), you have a "suspicious" checkbox (WW for the Sheriff/Exe/WW result and an additional SK for the Doc/Disg/SK result) that the framer can choose to select. If he selects it, then the target will appear as suspicious or as the WW/SK to the sheriff. '''Idk about this. Makes it a little op imo.'''

Too OP or nah?

nah