Thread:Jallybwan/@comment-32783587-20180125220929

im strarting a new one because the old one is starting to get laggy. also i might not do the whole text box every time.

1. i did NOT want god to kill hitler. i simply wanted him to intervene in some way that will prevent the holocaust, or at least make it less harsh. im saying that a slaughtering of millions of people outweights forced gift or raising awareness. also, whaddaya mean by your next point, all sins are the same? so creating a holocaust is the same as swearing? they should NOT have all the same repercussions if thats what youre saying. that's just flawed. and no, he doesnt have to intervene with every sin, because that would be too much. just the major ones that kill massive amounts of people. hmm, since god is all knowing maybe he could have found a different way to raise awareness than let the holocaust happen. also answer this: could god create a stone so heavy he can't lift? if yes, then he's not all powerful, since he can't lift it. if no, he's also not all powerful because he cant create everything. thas the problem with omnipotent beings in the first place. there is just too much bad in the world for someone perfect to be watching over us and loves us all.

2. so if hitler accepts jesus, he'll go into heaven? but if gandhi does not, he will go to hell! unfair for just one simple question "do you accept jesus!"

3. you might argue "well everything god does has a point in the long run. whether it be creating hitler, making a hell pit of torture, or accepting jesus, this is how it will turn out for the best later". well, he's also all powerful, so he can create something that is better and will make everyone live in peace forever. but he clearly has not done that, which means he doesnt want to create it, or cant create it. if he doesnt want to create it, why? if he cant, then hes not all powerful! more paradoxes! id like to hear his reason for letting this crap in the world happen currently. if you dont understand it, neither does anyone, since you seem to know youre stuff about god and his plan. at least people understand the big bang and science, while not fully, it is more than you not knowing the entire POINT of god making lots suffer and lots hogging all of the good stuff, like me (i am very thankful to be in a first world country with basically unlimited food/water/housing) i dont know what i did god, but, thanks for putting me here! maybe you could put some people in my position, who suffer every day?

4. '''If God just intervened and fixed everything, nobody would learn at all, and we'd end up doing it again. ah, but he's all powerful! create something that would fix everything. and we WOULDNT end up doing it again? why not make it? youre saying if hitler was fixed up,  there would be another holocaust? well, figure out a way to  make a way for there not to be a holocaust, and to never be one in the first place! dont think you understand the true power of an all powerful being. you could argue "well, he cant make it" then he's not all powerful! so why hasnt he made it yet! this leaves one other option: he didnt want to. why make suffering then?'''

5. so you think its fair that there is a place where you literally suffer nonstop because you dont accept jesus? thats not being kind, thats kind of forcing people to agree with you.

6. well, i would believe if he came down. idk who wouldnt. also, that was thousands of years ago. its inaccurate, or if it did, was probably just a bunch of people faking it to prove their religion. that seems unlikely, but all people wanted to do was spread their religion so it would not be surprising if they did schemes like that.

7. it lined up after thousands of years? they probably checked old versions of it.... christianity, while being unclear, still has many of the same customs and ideas about god. it would nto be surprising if people who wrote the bible said the same stuff. its the same religion! all your ideas and proof come from a book that was written by man! theres no proof of god influencing it. if he influenced that, he could influence lots of other, more major shit.

8. I know you probably won't since you don't want to believe you're wrong, but hey, maybe you will.

shut up...

68. he made the laws of physics? then how did he create everything in an instant,  that violates the matter cannot be created or destroyed theory. ok, so maybe were wrong about creating that law, as god disproves that. well, there goes 100s of years of research just to fit god in. also, god "doesnt have to fit in with the laws of physics?" i dont think you understand what laws of physics are. in a universe, those are the only things that can happen, no matter what. making an exception just for god? that means we would have to rethink everything, because it clearly IS possible to be all knowing, which would change lots of physics. it is not physcially possible to do some of the stuff god is doing.

10. youre using the bible to prove the bible, which doesnt make sense and is circle logic. if god is real, the bible is real. they dont coincide. thats why the bible stuff is invalid.\

11. there are actually not too many disagreements about athiests.. just different theories on stuff we dont understand, just like your god. the big bang and some quantum shit are the few ones. most science disagreements would still be there whether chrisitians or athiests. athiests are open to new opinions, but christians are locked in. but in your case, people worship completely different things, like sects. also, who's to say god is real, and not the hindi god? or the buddhist god? why is YOURS special. when you touched god? how do you know it wasnt a different god?

12. the fact that athiesm is more modern  and scientific, not to mention more logical, should disprove god in itself. again, created thousands of years ago when people were still banging sticks together. they werent really that smart. just think that an all powerful being seems a bit far fetced, especially because most of us have never even seen him.

13. i dont believe in unicorns. prove to me they arent real. any evidence against that can also go against god.you cannot be 100% sure of god. what if a superintelligent undetectable alien made that "touched by god" at the exact moment in a church? seems unlikely, BUT NOT IMPOSSIBLE. you cannot prove god 100% simple. even if you do see him, it could be that alien again. so dont go saying "well you would never give up your athiesm even if its proven wrong" well you wouldnt either.

14. there are some other thing s, such as noahs ark being not possible, but its been too long. there are some things in the bible that dont make sense though. but i guess if there is a ll knowing being than anything is possible

8739872: you were being rude too. look at 8. remember, i can say "fuck god" while it may seem crazy to you, its not as bad to me because i aint think hes real. 