Board Thread:Role Ideas (Town)/@comment-33824162-20171201013320/@comment-33380803-20171202080004

'''Time to get back to reviewing roles. :3'''

SpecialistMarine wrote:  Name: Soldier

Needs to be changed for lore reasons

Alignment: Town Killing

Summary: You are apart of the military serving to protect the town who is willing to committ a mass shooting to find the evildoers, even if it costs town lives.

Attack: Powerful

Not usually a good idea for TK..

Defense: Basic (for first attack against them)

Remove this

Unique Role: Yes '''Another unique tk? Hmmm...''' Abilities: Decide to commit a mass shooting to defend the town.

Attributes: You cannot attack until you are attacked. Ummm You can commit a mass shooting to defend the town on up to 4 people on one night.

Not good at all...

1. It relies on you being attacked which is bad.

'''2. It can kill 4 people... That’s like easily 2-3 scum on average as he can only use his ability late game'''

3. It can only b done once, and one-use abilities are generally bad as it’s boring to do nothing until you can use your ability.

You can only make one mass shooting.

Mechanics: (How It Works) You cannot attack until you are attacked. Once you have been attacked, you can attack whenever you want once at night and kill up to 4 people of your choice that same night. You can only create a mass shooting once.

 You will not shoot yourself the next night if you have slained a townie like the Vigilante. '''SO it has guilt like vig if it kills a townie, but if it kills a vig the guilt doesn’t count... what? '''

You cannot be witched to shoot until you have been attacked. If you have been attacked, a witch can control you to kill one person the next night. Consecutive controls will not work if you already shot someone. However, if the witch was a victim by the soldier the night he shoots, the witch effect will work but the witch will die as well. '''Another problem wiht this role, is how witch will affect it. If only one person dies, than there is a confirmed witch who confirmed controlled the soldier.'''

You aren't immune to roleblocks, so a consort, escort, and jailor can roleblock you preventing you from shooting that night.

You are immune to the transporter, so you cannot be transported. However, if one of your targets was transported, the effect will work normally on them. '''What... Nothing is immune to transporter... You can’t be immune to transporter. It makes no sense and is weird. The only thing that stops trans is if someone is jailed because all actions against jailed targets don’t work.'''

If a bodyguard guards one of the people you've shot, the soldier will die with the bodyguard but the person guarded will still remain alive.

If you are ignited by an Arsonist even with your defense still up, you will die. Same applies to a werewolf attack. If you are jailed and the jailor decides to execute you, you will die. If one of your victims is the veteren on alert, you will die.

-Investigative Results-

<p style="font-weight:400;font-size:16px;"><span style="color:rgb(69,191,0);">Sheriff: Your target is not suspicious.

<p style="font-weight:400;font-size:16px;"><span style="color:rgb(69,191,0);">Investigator: Your target could be a Bodyguard, Godfather, Arsonist, or Soldier. '''Crusader’s meant to be already in there... Not so great choice of inv results'''

<p style="font-weight:400;font-size:16px;"><span style="color:rgb(221,0,0);">Consigliere/<span style="color:rgb(191,95,255);">Witch: Your target is willing to shoot up the town to find the evildoers. He must be the Soldier.

<p style="font-weight:400;font-size:16px;">Goal: Lynch every criminal and evildoer.

<p style="font-weight:400;font-size:16px;">Wins With: Town, Survivor

<p style="font-weight:400;font-size:16px;">Must Kill: Mafia, Witch, Serial Killer, Werewolf, Arsonist, Vampire

<p style="font-weight:400;font-size:16px;">Anything Else:

<p style="font-weight:400;font-size:16px;"> Godfather and Arsonist chance: I know you all will judge on how this should be apart of the vigilante, veteren, and mafioso, but I will tell you why it isn't. The godfather/arsonist roles have been extremely hard to play because the only thing he can claim is the bodyguard, and not many people buy the excuse "self vest" after being attacked and revealed by mafia/serial killer death notes, or shot by a vigilante. When an investigator tells the town his results on how you were Bodyguard, Godfather, Arsonist, or Soldier, it will make the game much more balanced because it gives a chance for the godfather and arsonist to defend themselves. Lynching the soldier isn't really a good thing as the soldier is a very valuable role for the town.

<p style="font-weight:400;font-size:16px;">Consort, Consigliere, and Framer chance: Having this role included into the game will make these roles more fun and worth playing. The consort is a huge counter to the soldier, because if he is known as the soldier he can be roleblocked by the consort preventing him from shooting that night. When the consigliere discovers the soldier he can tell his fellow mafia members to avoid attacking him. The framer can frame the soldier making him seem like he is a member of the mafia (won't work if investigator investigates the soldier.).

<p style="font-weight:400;font-size:16px;">This role is also designed to keep the game more fun, having another overpowered and exciting role like the jailor. '''What.. we do not need more OP TK roles... Jailor is ridiculous already.'''

<p style="font-weight:400;font-size:16px;">Feel free to write on what you think about this role.

<p style="font-weight:400;font-size:16px;">Thanks

<p style="font-weight:400;font-size:16px;">-Andrew

Good effort, and thank you for using a nice format and well-explained ideas. However there are many flaws with this role:

1. It has powerful attack

2. It has basic defence until attacked, and also it cannot use it’s ability until attacked.

3. It kills 4 people in one night...

4. It has a one-use ability which is usually bad

5. It has guilt liek Vig but if it kills vig the guilt doesn’t count?

6. The inv results (ez to change so not really a problem)

7. Another unique TK role...

From the making new roles page:

http://town-of-salem.wikia.com/wiki/Making_New_Roles

‘Remember not to make it Night Immune to prevent this role from being overpowered, and its killing shouldn't go through Night Immunity.

@Space, those rules are still relatively new and still applicable bro, BMG do care...

@Andrew

Have fun making more roles, and try to follow the guidelines on making roles!

Things I like about the role/your ideas (I know basically all my posts are negative):

1. It’s not rb immune.

2. You made it a small bit balanced by making it only able to use it’s ability once attacked.

3. You made a decent attempt at trying to make witch work with this role