Board Thread:Role Ideas (Rework)/@comment-33167183-20180719162754/@comment-36164641-20180727090153

I don't think the Survivor should be removed. Survivors are hard to win enough. Here are the scenarios on how Survivor can easily lose.

1: Lynched by Town.

2: Killed by Mafia (if didn't vest).

3: Stabbed by the Serial Killer (if didn't vest).

4: Incinerated by the Arsonist.

5: Mauled by a Werewolf.

6: Died of guilt over lynching a Jester.

7: Executed by the Jailor.

8: Shot by a Vigilante (if didn't vest).

9: Drained by a Coven Leader (with the Necronomicon).

10: Killed by the Potion Master.

11: Poisoned by the Poisoner.

12: Turned to stone by the Medusa (with the Necronomicon).

13: Hexed by the Hex Master (with the Necronomicon).

14: Killed by the Necromancer's ghoul (with the Necronomicon).

15: Obliterated by the Pestilence, Horseman of the Apocalypse.

16: Assaulted by the Juggernaut.

OK, sure. Some situations listed above can be dodged when the Survivor vests, and some Town members can't protect themselves from this attack. But, they can be ressurected by the Retributionist if they weren't stoned/cleaned, and if they were, they could still win if Town wins. Not the Survivor. If he dies, he can no longer win. So, tell me again why Survivor is boring? It's intense. At any moment any person can find you suspicious and lynch you, or someone could kill you. Certainly, self-confirming Town roles (Jailor, Veteran, Vigilante, Retributionist, Doctor, etc.) could prove other blames wrong. But you? HA! You can't confirm yourself. The only way that you can even try to survive is claiming day 1, but there will always be that scumbag who will tell you "Surv claims are NK! Kill him!" only to find out that you were a Survivor, in which he probably would not even care. So, in my opinion, Survivor is a good role. CHANGE MY MIND.