Board Thread:Role Ideas (Mafia)/@comment-38160115-20190113213741/@comment-38160115-20190114022207

Addfire wrote: Aremora wrote: Addfire wrote: Aremora wrote: Name: Underboss '''Background:  Born as the son of a Big earner, you saw the sun rise from the highest points in town. Yet, now you are at your lowest of lows. You're always seen as the weakest to the mafia, but the Godfather saw something in you, something he didnt have, a charm he has no strain over. You promised him you'll keep the mafia going untill the day that you die.'''

Description: You are the second in command of the mafia

Alignment: Mafia Support, Unique

Attack: None 

Defence: None

Mechanics:  You Can Bribe an Town character.

'''- During day you can choose to bribe a Town or Neutral character. '''

-That player must Abstain during voting

You can only use this ability 3 times

- During the night You are able to pick a character, 

- That Player's ability is then mitigated, as they still visit their target, but the ability will be nullified.

You use this ability continuously





/: Your target is the future leader of the mafia, He must be the Underboss

Wins with/Must kill: Mafia Win Conditions

User:TheLastHappyPotato pointed out most of the flaws here. But to break it down a little more–

Vote buying rules are something that, in general, BMG dislikes. The voting mechanic is the main way the town kills, so to take that away from a townie is devastating. On top of that, a role that does in practice the exact same thing as the but with something ~special~ isn't going to be making the Consort very nouvelle anytime soon. While the idea has a lot of flavor and personality to it, it simply isn't enough to get past the janky mechanics. Kudos for decent Investigation results, though. Thank you for your feedback, this is my first time doing something like this and i want to clarify some things. I primarily made it strong in order to help it stand, as mafia is kinda weak, when townies always has 2 TK. and that NE is also standing against them,  Don't worry about this being your first time with time doing stuff like this! Everyone has to start somewhere, and no one should be faulted for where they start. There isn't anything wrong with making a strong role, but when you do this it's sort of overcorrecting if that makes sense. It's a frustratingly delicate balance, but in this case you'd be forcing one role into obsoletion and really just hamstringing the town faction. Neutral Evil roles, in my experience, generally side with the mafia over others, and Neutral Killers benefit from a mafia in place. Thank you, and herees the adapted balance idea,  both abilities limited to two, as they are both powerful effects. make him Unique, so there can only be one. Another thing is to make that the Rb works like consort/Escort, and yes, Make him the GF when GF dies