Board Thread:Role Ideas (Neutral)/@comment-31680260-20170428082957/@comment-31680260-20170504045143

ZedKiller13 wrote:

I don' exactly like dead bodies bypassing Night Immunity. That's basically saying that Serial Killer is highly weak since the other NK's go through Night Immunity. However, this DOES buff the retributionist as it makes them HIGHLY more important. I don't really think that makes SK weak. They're the ONLY Neutral Killer that can kill freely every single night, so they can respond instantly to people causing trouble for them. Werewolves often have to wait a night to deal with them, and in some circumstances the Town will have lynched you by then. Also, I doubt anyone considers Arso more powerful than SK by any means :P

Haw, thanks for the brutal honesty. So the reasons you are rejecting it are as follows (if I read the review properly):

- Buffs the already OP Bodyguard

- The only immune role you need to kill is the GF or Any NK, so the Killing Body rule is kinda UP

- You think of it as a nerfed SK that depends on the Mafia or lynching for bodies

Point 1: Already fixed, BG will now kill the Necro as they would any other killer.

Point 2: This is true. What we could change is that it bypasses jail-immunity or Doc heals, so then it's a lot more useful. I'll put this on the original post as a potential option. (Getting past Jail immunity seems a bit unfair, but it almost follows the same mechanics as SK breaking out of jail and attacking the Jailor, except reversed. And Jailor is arguably the most important Town role, so whoever they jailed probably isn't as important - so it won't hurt the Town too badly. I welcome opinions on this)

Point 3: It does depend on other kills - that was intended as part of the role. It adds a certain level of skill requirement, and makes other killers think really carefully about who they attack. As for the "nerfed SK" part, see Point 2 for a way to possibly get around that.

Have a read of that and tell me what you think, maybe offer a few suggestions, I'm all ears.

As for Addfire and Zed, thanks! I love it when important people think my stuff is cool :D

Spicy, I'm not sure where you stand. You said you were witholding judgement (I respect that) but do you have a "final" answer or are you still contemplating?

All in all, thanks for the discussion - it's been a while since I held a decent debate with decent people :)