Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-33167183-20180515155228/@comment-27575896-20180515170315

Betimawesome wrote: Why ranked sucks

1. It is more one sided then tf2 comp.

What I mean by this is basically, if you get town, you win.

'''Not always. Mafia usually wins if they manage to get a good start as in TI are only Spies and a Lookout or they kill off TI quickly. Same if they kill of TP's and take the risk on the Jailor who normally reveals themselves.'''

If you get non witch NE, you may win if your target is dumb or you get vfr'd, but otherwise rip..

Strategies work.

If you get witch, you rely on town being bad and there being 4 vigilantes without an Escort.

'''Heck no. Just control the Jailor each night and have the Mafia kill any Lookouts. Force Jailor to execute good townies too.'''

If you get Mafia, then gg you lose.

No.

If you get neutral killing, you suicide into jailor. Or be a good lil wolf and maul everyone for the Mafia.

'''Ehhh.....it's risky and hard as NK but if you have a Mayor as an Arsonist just cooperate and agree with everything the Mayor says, they will most likely belive you. I usually WIN in Ranked as NK and only lose if town is lynch happy and get lucky doing so.'''

Summary: Town wins, everyone else sucks.

2. It's boring for Town Protectives.

Yes, i'm saying it. TP is boring as hell in ranked. In Coven Gamemodes, usually the jailor doesn't reveal. In ranked, you click one button at night as TP. you don't have the fun of predicting who to heal/guard/trap/kill everyone who visits. You just click on the jailor claim. That's how you play TP. '''Slightly agree, but hey who knows, Mafia might try the risk and you might save the game! The oher issue is metagaming Day 1, so I think you should be unable to talk on the first day.'''

3. Everyone blames the Jailor for executing a town, when clearly it's the townie's fault.

So I one time executed a Spy who claimed when there were 20 seconds left and had NO will.

We found Spy dead in their home last night. He was executed by the Jailor. We couldn't find a will. His role was spy:

Town: WTF JAILOR NOOB JAILOR REPORT JAILOR ASS JAILOR SHIT JAILOR

Bitch, how is that my fault? (Same way with Vigilante)

They don't know the whole story and they want to win.

4. Retributionist is a good reason why town is OP as fuck.

Hey, remember when medium was basically impossible to confirm? Well, since Ret exists, all mediums are confirmed! While you can attempt to claim ret by whispering someone you think will be revived first, that is rare, and will get you shot/exe'd.

I've posted an okay ret nerf before, so...

'''Ret nerf is bad. Ret is normal itself, especially when Town only has a one person majority once they revive a person. Welp, maybe Ret is confirmed but Town just lost due to a 4v4.'''

However, despite everything said, ranked is about the only good gamemode where you encounter smart townies. AND PEOPLE WHO DONT FUCKING LYNCH REVEALED MAYORS AND JAILOR CLAIMS DAY 2 LIKE LITERALLY HAPPENED TO ME BEFORE IN PRACTICE. ​​​​​​​Practice is full of the Classics who don't know what to do yet and have people who are evil claiming Jailor.