Thread:Jallybwan/@comment-32783587-20180109025223/@comment-26234016-20180215131741

Jallybwan wrote: Addfire wrote: Uh, no, I have made my stance on abortion very clear. It is immoral to force anyone to go through that sort of pain and hardship against their will, and honestly, in my view, abortion is in the same category as women's rights. '''"Force" someone? If it's a rape-baby, I could understand that. But if you have sex unprotected, you are accepting the responsibility of childbirth and raising that child. Nobody "forces" a woman to have unprotected sex (except in the case of rape, which I've already addressed). Abortion is essentially murder if the only reason is "I don't want a baby" - we could apply the same reason to both of them. "So, why did you murder your neighbour?" "I don't want them to be my neighbour, and they won't move out. So I'm justified."  Rape isn't the only time an unwanted baby can happen, and you know it. Not all forms of protection are 100% (condoms break, the pill doesn't always work, etc.). ''' I'm not intending to argue about this, because your argument comes from faith and my aim isn't to change your faith. I'm just detailing my position. '''Why not? Arguments are a good way to get to know each other better, and as long as we're not attacking each other's characters (which I've never known you to do), there shouldn't be any problems.'''