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Pokechurin wrote: gonna do this later, but I think that Forger is better than Framer

Yes it's completely outclassed by Janitor but if you were to theoretically have a game with one framer, gf, mafioso, it would be worse than if you had one forger, gf and mafioso. Wiping someone's will is (kind of) useful, meanwhile framer is just awful all around, terrible invest results, ability that doesn't usually have much of an impact on the game. Framer has the ability of his ability being so s—-ty that you can basically claim anything and if you visit confirmed you basically cannot really be found out as framer until someone checks you (but then you claim framed), but he’s basically a vote otherwise.

Forger is just a horrible janitor that takes way too much effort to POSSIBLY trick town, and there’s not that much you can use to your advantage if TIs are saying information. Maybe a medium or something.

Both need buffs, but framer has very slighty more use for less cost (because framer is about as garbage as forger but due to a less useful ability he has more ways to ironically trick town)