Board Thread:Role Ideas (Mafia)/@comment-38352403-20190206024124/@comment-32651233-20190213023504

Rasengan66 wrote: NapstablookInfinity wrote: Rasengan66 wrote: Because it can find out who TP are by watching important Townies.

Because it can find out who TI are by watching suspicious poeple.

etc. then its literally just a worse consigliere. No, because it can find multiple players at once and doesn't have to go around the player list guessing to do it. also you don't get any roles, so you can't be SURE that they are what you think they are. You could think that someone is tp and you kill them but they turn out to be the sheriff that decided to investigate an important townie for some whatever reason. '''You're joking. Sheriffs don't investigate important Townies.''' Sure, you can't distinguish between a BG and an Escort, but both are pretty dangerous, and you can at least know who you're killing. Plus, even if the investigative ability is worse than Consig, this unconfirms Lookouts and Trackers as well as having a solid Lookout/Tracker claim itself (admittedly countered by Spy more than Consig is, but stiiiill) Yeah and Consigliere unconfirms Investigator claims and has a solid Investigator claim itself. And Consort unconfirms Escort and has a solid Escort claim itself. Point is, that argument is borderline worthless, unconfirming a role and having a solid claim is not a thing that makes this role "unique", nor does it support your claim that this role is NOT a worse consigliere. This role is literally just a Lookout/Tracker combination but for Mafia. It won't help mafia as much as Consigliere would, and Lookout and Tracker are both still easily confirmed if there is also a Spy around. This is the problem with Consort and Consigliere, and basically every single mafia role that is designed to unconfirm an easily confirmable town role. Spy. That one annoying overly conditional TI that has gone through a rework and is still as conditional as ever. Now lets stop before this post devolves into me ranting about Spy.