Board Thread:Role Ideas (Town)/@comment-50.37.85.112-20190209234355/@comment-38437171-20190210031914

50.37.85.112 wrote: Town (Support)

Attack: None

Defense: None

Unique: No

Priority: 1 (Highest)

Abilities: Link your mind with another player's mind at night. :O

Attributes:

You may annonymously talk to your target.  So like jailor...

Your target will know their mind is being linked. ''' So like... Well anything in the game except for Arsonist  : )'''

You will know who the other Mystics are. '''Oh? Well color me intrigued.'''

You may speak to the other Mystics at night. So like mafia/coven

You may decide whether you will or will not say things in the Mystic chat.''' How does this work? Is it just like not saying something or do you actually decide if the other Mystics will see your typing? Is there point of typing if your not connected to the Mystic chat? '''​​

Results:

Investigator: Your target is a Mystic. wut...

Sheriff: You cannot find evidence of wrongdoing, your target seems innocent.

Consigliere/Potion Master/Coven Leader: Your target uses their powers to find evildoers. They must be a Town Mystic. hmm...

Goal: Lynch every criminal and evildoer. even if they are an evil/neutral role?

This role will CLEARLY need some things specified. '''HA... you got that right...'''

You will probably see some problems in this.

1. Auto-confirmation: People can confirm a Mystic read their mind. It's really quite simple.

2. Can confirm other Mystics: Yeah, they know who all Mystics are and may speak to them at night.

3. Lack of Invest results: Notice how I didn't specify "Town Mystic". "Town Mystic" is the role, not "Mystic".

Here's what happens.

Town Mystic.

Neutral Mystic.

Mafia Mystic.

Coven Mystic.

All 4 Mystics have the SAME ability. In the Mystic chat, you will not know what faction they are. Note: Mafia and Coven Mystics are Unique. '''Wait WHAT!? There are mystics for each role? and the sheriff results are always innocent?​​​​​​'''

The Town Mystic (if added) is the ONLY Town role in the game that knows other roles. '''Hmm? Town Mystic knows roles?'''

It will say the Mystic's names up at the top, similar to your Lover or the VIP. It will only say a list of names, and will not say things such as Fring (Coven Mystic). It will only say Fring or Fring (Mystic).

Mafia/Coven Mystics gaining the ability to kill does not deprive them from being still able to communicate to someone. okay...

Overall, the goal for the Mystic is to be confirmed as a set of roles (that the Investigator doesn't really help with) to determine the identity. There's really no way to tell the difference (except for a Sheriff or a Consigliere, Potion Master, and Coven Leader) from the Mystics.

1. Auto-confirmation: People can confirm a Mystic read their mind. It's really quite simple.

- Now that this has been established, saying Mystic is easy to confirm is like saying Escort is easy to confirm without a Spy.

2. Can confirm other Mystics: Yeah, they know who all Mystics are and may speak to them at night.

- Confirms Mystics as Mystics, but does NOT confirm them as Town.

3. Lack of Invest results: Notice how I didn't specify "Town Mystic". "Town Mystic" is the role, not "Mystic".

- This is because ALL Mystics, no matter the faction, have the exact same Investigator result.

Happy Hanging! I am SO confused.

So there are different mystics for different faction? (town/mafia/coven/neutral)? What do they fall under. Town support and... Neutral Chaos? Mafia Support? This is very confusing and I would have to say I would have the similar reaction to there being a mystic in my mafia as if there was a disguiser in my mafia.

Second, they all show up as not suspicous? And what really is the goal for the Mystics? You said that their goal was to hang all criminals and evildoers, but I'm assuming this doesn't count for if they're neutral or mafia.

Overall I'm super confused about how this role works and really what its point is. It seems like a jailor with no exes for a bunch of different factions. I don't really see a point and I feel like this would take up precious mafia/coven spots in modes like Ranked Practice/Ranked. 4/10 for right now but I'd be interested to see how this role goes if it gets developed more. ​​​​​