Board Thread:Role Ideas (Rework)/@comment-28092296-20181029002141/@comment-33307613-20181029130318

TheRetroPioneer wrote: Framer The Framer only appears in games with a Sheriff and/or Investigator—similar to how the Vampire Hunter only appears in games with at least one Vampire Frames override douses and hexes (hexes are from the Coven DLC)

Forger Forgers can view their target’s original wills

Janitor Janitors cannot view their target’s wills Janitors can clean their fellow Mafia - This can be used to hide how many Mafia members are alive, and un-confirms investigative roles

Disguiser Disguisers get a random set of disguises to work with: 3 Town disguises, 2 Neutral disguises, 1 Coven disguise (for the Coven DLC) and one random disguise. Disguiser can select themself to choose what they will appear as. - This promotes improvisation and creates a feeling of ‘controlled randomness’ Disguisers can trick Coven Leaders, Witches and Potion Masters.

Consigliere The Consigliere is a unique role

Ambusher The Ambusher instead roleblocks a target. Their name isn’t revealed as a counterbalance. The Ambusher’s alignment will be changed to the Mafia Support alignment Investigation result changes: Lookout, Ambusher, Witch/Coven Leader Forger has investigation results with the Mafioso and Vigilante (etc). - Ambushers can create a Lookout claim more effectively than a Forger since they know when nobody visits their target

Hypnotist A new messages can be displayed “Somebody attacked you but your defense was too high!” (Or whatever the message is) - This is to counter Neutral roles claiming Survivor. If they see this message, they will claim that they successfully vested, meaning the Hypnotist can weed out fake Survivor claims.

'Promoting to Mafioso' priority:

1. Framer (Doesn't usually see a lot of action)

2. Ambusher (Can be powerful for checking for TP roles on confirmed townies)

3. Blackmailer

4. Hypnotist

5. Disguiser

6. Janitor

7. Forger

8. Consort

8. Consigliere 1. The Framer already overrides douses and hexes. The Framer should be able to to trick all Town Investigatives so that it doesn't need to spawn with only Sheriffs or Investigators.

2. That would be nice.

3. I agree with not being able to see wills. I don't see why they should be able to clean fellow Mafia members; it seems unnecessary as the cirumstance you described is extremely situational.

4. I'd prefer a rework. Disguisers are still pretty much useless until death (negative utility).

5. There is no reason for this.

6. This would just make it a different type of Consort; I'd rather have the role moved to the Coven and adjusted slightly.

7. No opinion.

8. I'd rather have Tactical Mafia implemented.