Board Thread:Role Ideas (Neutral)/@comment-32329805-20190706194424/@comment-38165883-20190707174013

Hi Wolfizee, i would like to begin by saying that this post is extremely long so i will not be quoting your message. In short, im seeing great potential for this role and am excited to help out. So here we go:

I made a few assumptions about the Apprentice, but can you confirm whether these facts are true:

1. Does Apprentice 'learn' Immunities? Eg. learning Escort grants rb immunity? 2. Does Apprentice 'learn' Defenses? Eg. learning SK grants basic defense? 3. Does Apprentice 'learn' Attributes? Eg. learning Medium allows you to talk to the dead? 4. Does learning a role affect your invest results? 5. Will the Apprentice's target know the name of the Apprentice, or just the role?

Apprentice full role interactions (just so that you can clarify any interactions): doubts are represented by question marks

disclaimer: i have never played coven expansion

Bodyguard - learnable, but cannot self vest Doctor - learnable, but cannot self heal Escort - learnable, has rb immune? Investigator - learnable Jailor - cant learn Lookout - learnable Mayor - cant learn Medium - learnable, seance? talk to dead? Retributionist - cant learn Sheriff - learnable Spy - learnable Transporter - learnable Vampire Hunter - learnable, converts to vig? if yes, does he have 1 bullet? Veteran - cant learn Vigilante - learnable, gains 1 bullet Crusader - learnable Tracker - learnable Trapper - ? will he just build his trap and be unable to place it? Psychic - learnable

Blackmailer - learnable, can hear whispers? Consigliere - learnable Consort - learnable, has rb immune? Disguiser - learnable Forger - learnable Framer - learnable Godfather - cant learn Janitor - learnable Mafioso - cant learn Hypnotist - learnable Ambusher - learnable

Amnesiac - cant learn Arsonist - learnable, cant ignite Executioner - learnable, will you know his target upon using your ability? Guardian Angel - cant learn Jester - cant learn Juggernaut - cant learn Pirate - cant learn Plaguebearer - ? wasnt specified but this should be 'cant learn' since pb/pest is unique Serial Killer - learnable, gains basic defense? Survivor - learnable, gains one vest Vampire - apprentice converts into vamp Werewolf - learnable, do you transform on full moon? Witch - learnable

Coven Leader - learnable Potion Master - learnable, are all 3 potions 'primary' abilities? Hex Master - learnable, Necromancer - learnable Poisoner - learnable Medusa - learnable

Flummery: - will your role card reflect your win conditions? - if an Amnesiac remembers you do they automatically gain your goal or do they have to visit a new target ot gain their goal? - LO/Forger/Witch is a suitable result but have you considered Framer/Vamp/Jest result as it can be fitting for a role who 'may not be what they seem'. - can the Necronomicon pass to you? (never played coven, might be a stupid question) - i offered my help with sample messages down below, so...

Sample messages:

Displays two messages to both players.

Apprentice notifications:

("Your target informed you of their goals." - Apprentice's notification, first visit.

or

"Your target did not inform you of their goal." - Apprentice's  notification, second visit onwards.)

and

("Your target has accepted your apprenticeship! You have Learned from them!" - Apprentice's  notification when targetting a learnable role.

or

"Your target has rejected your apprenticeship!" - Apprentice's notification when targetting an unlearnable role.)

Apprentice's target notifications:

("You were visited by an Apprentice. You informed (name of apprentice) of your goals." - Apprentice's target's notification, first visit. (shows name)

or

"You were visited by an Apprentice. You informed him/her of your goals." - Apprentice's target's notification, first visit. (does not show name)

or

"You were visited by an Apprentice, but you did not inform him/her of your goals." - Apprentice's target's notification, second visit onwards.)

and

("You were visited by an Apprentice. He/she has Learned from you!" - Apprentice's target's notification when targetting a learnable role.

or

"You were visited by an Apprentice, but you rejected his/her apprenticeship!" - Apprentice's target's notification when targetting an unlearnable role.)

Closing thoughts: 8/10 role idea, only reason i didnt give higher was because im a humble 1.1k player so if there were balance issues for higher ranks i will definitely be unable to see them. cheers