Board Thread:Role Ideas/@comment-26832255-20160918005125/@comment-25876622-20160919221646

Alexman37 wrote: Ok, some changes made based off of feedback. This should tie all the loose ends and nerf him quite a bit I'll say.

The effects of this role and its interaction with other roles has become pretty complex. That's not a bad thing! However, it will become even more difficult to convince BMG to implement this role.

If a Doctor attends he has the choice to save anyone at the meeting If a Framer attends, he has the choice to change a player's role to something else Do you pick someone to heal/frame? If you heal/frame someone who doesn't attend the meeting, nothing happens. Or do you automatically heal/frame someone random?

will appear as a random, non-unique Town role I'm not sure about the random part. Whether it is a good idea depends on the opinions of other players.

I still don't see any good reason not to hold the meeting as soon as possible. More players have to make the choice, more can be revealed, more can be confirmed, less Town are already dead. In that sense, you shouldn't use the meeting to break up claims, you should use the meeting to give the Town a huge early information package.

If a Blackmailer attends only the Diplomat will know who the roles of the visitors are If a Serial Killer attends he will cause chaos and kill the Diplomat This is the only counter to the Diplomat. Yes, some roles will be able to hide their identity. They only protect themselves. A single Blackmailer can stop the Diplomat from revealing - but they can copy all results into their will and reveal everything two days later. Only the two put together can prevent the information from reaching Town. Even then, a Medium/Retributionist can acquire this information post mortem. Therefore, there are only two outcomes:
 * 1) Player list has Blackmailer+Serial Killer, but no Medium/Retributionist: Diplomat holds meeting n1. No information is revealed, he dies, the information is lost. Diplomat is hardcountered and useless. However, the Town now knows there is a Blackmailer who can no longer pose as Spy. (Effective nerf!)
 * 2) Any other player list: Diplomat holds meeting n1. Information is revealed the same night, or eventually. Town gains a huge advantage.