Board Thread:Role Ideas (Neutral)/@comment-34797858-20180508152812/@comment-27575896-20180508171903

MemeDaddy1233 wrote: Name: Concealer Alligment:

Summary: You are a magician who reveals their victms when the time is right.

Unique?: Yes

Attack: Powerful

Inmunity: None

Priorty: 5

Abilities: Attack someone every odd night. They will be concealed and you will know their role and last will. Whenever you die, all concealed players get revealed, showing all of the roles and last wills. When you kill someone, you get a token. You can put up to four tokens in yourself for either better attack, defence, or investigative results.

That's way too much.

Day ability(One use): Reveal all concealed players to the town, and level up once through all of the stages.

Attack

1 token Attack every night. (Basic on even nights, powerful on odd.)

Ehh....that's a lot more powerful than a Werewolf.

2 tokens Rampage at target (All players who die to rampage do not get concealed.)

Doen't change much.

3 tokens Everyone who dies to your rampage gets concealed.

'''Wait...so rampages don't conceal targets before then? So it just says: "they were killed by a concealer"'''

4 tokens Your visits are astrial and you gain powerful attacks during the full moon.

'''Astral* This isn't as much of an upgrade as THE FIRST TOKEN. Notice this is way overbalanced.'''

Defence

1 token: Tempoary basic defence.

2 tokens:Permant basic defence

3 tokens:Tempoary Powerful defence.

4 tokens: Permant powerful defence.

'''This would be the only role with Powerful defense as itself. So it can't be killed by anything other than Unstoppable, which is basically Pestilence but slightly worse.'''

Inves results

1 token: Tempoary randomized result.

Define it.

2 tokens: Permant chosenresult.

Define it.

3 tokens: Tempoary Detection immunity.

4 tokens Permant Detection Immunity.

Yeah no.

Attributes:

Investigative Results: (None, unlesss you powered up to get one.)


 * Your target is a Concealer! (Unless you powered up to appear NS.


 * Your target uses trickery to their advantage, they must be a concealer!

Wins with: Surv Jest Anme Exec Pirate Witch Concealer

Must kill: Rest.

Goal: KIll all who would oppose you.

Messages:

You were attacked by a Concealer!

The concealer has died! All concealed people have been revealed!

The concealer has revealed the concealed! Everyone can look at the concealed now! '''This role is extremely overbalanced and slightly broken, and a lot of things need to be clarified before any judgement can be issued. So...concealing just cleans their target and once you die it's revealed? It makes Mediums and Retris pointless as well.'''

'''Please know that you get a token per kill. And despite all that, this role is EASILY the most powerful role in the entire game no matter which side it takes. Remove invest results, please. It doesn't deserve detection immunity at all.'''

'''The issue is, it can easily decimate all roles and become a Juggernaut way of upgrades. There's an issue with Juggernaut-themed roles because it never fits right. This is way too easy by itself to get tokens, consideirng a kill=1 token, so rampaging 4 targets gets 4+1 tokens in ONE NIGHT ALONE. This role can literally become the best role in the game and most overpowered too. Easy way to upgrade, you know everything about your killed targets, and you can easily bypass defenses just by using three tokens. This role would get about 5 kills if not found. That's 4 defense and 1 attack, way too easily overpowered, and remember, IT KNOW'S THE ROLES AND WILLS OF THE TARGETS KILLED.'''