Board Thread:Role Ideas (Mafia)/@comment-33167183-20171130005833/@comment-33224790-20171130014120

Betimawesome wrote: How the hell is this a hard counter

I didnt include promote to moso/mafia chat because all members have that...

"Up as heck" so is framer so... It's a hard counter because it only kills three roles. Therefore, it is a hard counter to those roles.

Understandable you didn't add that stuff.

Framer is useful on the occasion that it hits the same target as a TI, and it can be useful to act as if a jailed Mafia member had attacked an immune. Just because there are one or two UP Mafia roles, doesn't mean there should be another.