Board Thread:Debate of The Week/@comment-28112409-20181230235210/@comment-33307613-20190111165530

Pokechurin wrote: Honestly disguiser isn't even that bad. It's okay. Forger and Framer are both almost completely useless though. Disguiser is just as bad as both the Framer and Forger for the following reasons:

- It doesn't have a permanent disguise. If your target dies, good luck rewriting your entire fake will. Also, if you're role blocked or jailed, have fun being vulnerable for a day.

- It only confuses the Investigator. Sure, if you get hanged after being accused by a Sheriff, you might make the Town think there is a Framer, but the chance of you being a Disguiser is so much higher. There is also the possibility that the Town might think the Sheriff is an Executioner, but Executioners normally say when they win.

- Normally, you can only get a 1 for 1 trade. The Bodyguard's ability literally revolves around a 1 for 1 trade because it favors the Town (who has the majority).

- Smart Spies counter it. You may not think it, but if a Mafia member visits a player whose role is known and the Disguiser appears to be that player's role, they might get suspicious.

- The Vigilante knows all. If you get shot by a Vigilante, you are revealed to be a Disguiser.

- You're wasting a slot for a better Mafia role. Who wants a Disguiser over a Janitor, Consort, or Consigliere?

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Is there any particular reason you think that the Disguiser is "okay" that I might be overlooking? From where I'm standing, it's garbage.