Board Thread:Role Ideas (Mafia)/@comment-38161154-20190115212318/@comment-36558623-20190116015937

PoisonRenee wrote: Role Name: Framer (buffed up)

'''Before I go into the review, keep in mind that the Role Rework board is typically where you post buff/nerfs to ideas. this is a harmless mistake though, don't worry.'''

Alignment: Mafia Deception

Unique: No

Attack and Defense: None

Abilities: Your target will appear as a member of the mafia. If there are no mafia members left, you will become a mafioso. You can chat with all of the other mafia at night unless they are jailed.

Mechanics: Frame two people every night. You can choose what section of evil you wish for it to be (Framer, Vamp, Jest| Spy, Bmer, Jailor| Vig, vet, mafioso, etc etc). You framing is astral. Your framing takes priority over Hex Master's hexes, a disguiser and an arsonist's douse. Framed targets will be 'suspicious' to Sheriffs.

Immunities: Still none



Sheriff: Your target is suspicious

Investigator: Your target could be a framer/vampire/jester/hex master

Consigliere: Your target has a desire to decieve. They must be a framer!

Goal, Wins with and Must kill: same as the original framer.

Side notes: I decided to make it astral because if it wasn't, spies could easily just go 'ha look sheriff/invest dude your results are FAKE because that person was visited last night, so they must be framed or your a consig, dude.' I also chose TWO people because, what are the odds in a ranked game there's going to be one invest/sheriff who visits the one singular target you framed? With the odds that you are roleblocked or jailed, thats just really hard to frame people. But still no roleblock immunity because theres no reason to. Also, if a person who claimed spy becomes a framer/vamp/jest then thats just dumb. The invest could be like 'ha, theres a framer boi now nobody trust their results until he ded.'

Please don't kill me for this.

Never fear to post ideas, even if you personally don't think they're a good idea or won't be well received. I'd say my number one issue with this role is that it doesn't enhance the general mechanics for a framer. It gives it fancy tools like Astral visits and double uses, but this doesn't make the ability the framer has much better.

Changing investigative results and ignoring being seen by visits is a fine change, but it's not what I personally am looking for. My ideal change would be something that makes the mechanic work.