Board Thread:Role Ideas (Mafia)/@comment-35798431-20190426092141/@comment-33669539-20190426124323

DirectorHail wrote: New Role:Judge

Alignment:Mafia(Deception)

Attack:None

Defence:None

Coven Only:No

Unique:Yes

Summary:You are an evil Judge who secretly tampers with the voting system.

Ability:During the night you may ‘Tamper’ with someone’s votes. People who are tampered during the night will have the tampered effect on them for the next 2 days. You can ‘tamper’ your own mafia. '''Intresting... '''If someone gets voted up to the stand and they have the tampered affect on them, the Judge will get a menu pop up during the defence phase. The Judge can then overwrite the vote’s and immediately Lynch or Pardon the Accused player. '''​​​​​​ Not good. The lynch system is main way the Town can get rid of evil-doers. While the Mafia/Coven can decieve the Town into a mis-lynch, giving them DIRECT CONTROL is game-breaking. (Note: before you yell at me about saying it's OP, pls look at the bottom) '''If The Judge lynches then the game immediately cuts to the lynch phase. If the Judge chooses to pardon, then the player is immediately released off the stand and cannot be revoted for the rest of the day. A message will pop up saying, “The Judge has decided to Lynch/Pardon ‘Player Name’.

Attributes:You can only decide someone’s fate once per day. If you decide a tampered targets fate they will lose the tampered effect. Once you tamper with someone you must wait 3 nights before you can tamper that same person. If there are no kill capable roles left you will become mafioso.

Invest Results:Investigator, Consigliere, Mayor, Judge

Additional Notes: 1:Judge dosnt have to use his ability on a tampered player, they can just wait for the defence phase to go by without selecting any options if they wish for the trial to continue normally.

2:Spies will see you visit, and that includes you visiting other Mafia.

3:Waiting 3 nights is just a cool down so the Judge can’t keep on tampering his mafia and making them impossible to lynch.

4:No, the Judge can’t tamper himself

Why I think Judge is balanced: I can tell people will think the is Judge OP, and yes on paper he does sound OP. However put him into an actual game, He’s really there to counter VFR(Vote for role). His tampered effect only lasts 2 days, Meaning he can’t have more than 2 people tampered at a time. He doesn’t have r’b Immunity so Escorts can really disrupt him, and he’s unique meaning there can’t be more than one. The Judge can be super strong, but only in the right situation’s. And you might say, ‘Well he can save all his mafia from the stand!’ No, he can only use his ability once per day, meaning town could just vote on you or another member of the mafia. And the tampered effect disappears after you pardon your mafia member, meaning they could just be killed by TK or be lynched the following day. Actually imagine Judge in a real game. And suddenly he’s not overpowered. I just wanted to say this and why I think it’s a balanced role. While I understand where you are coming from, there are a few holes in your argument.

Firstly, I acknowledge this is meant to go against VFR. However, not everyone goes for VFR and I know a few people who actually think the idea hurts Town. So this argument won't work all the time.

Secondly, the Judge has a major flaw: He can act like a Mafia Protective. These types of roles are not allowed SPECIFICALLY due to Mafia winning with deception, and giving anyone automatic lynch protection is frowned upon

Also, this can negatively hurt the Mafia. Imagine someone from the mafia got up, and the lynch immunity was on. The natrual thing to do would be to automatic inno, right? Well, because the notification of that the Judge caused it, it will automatically make them suspicious, leading a lynch the next day, or a visit from the Jailor or Vigilante.