Board Thread:Role Ideas (Mafia)/@comment-31583987-20181130154850/@comment-27575896-20181130202335

SgtZaitsev69 wrote: Alignment: Mafia Deception

Attack: None

Defense: None

Description: You have the final say in a cause of death in the.

Attributes: You can converse with your fellow at night. If there are no killing roles left, you will become a

Ability: Choose the hide the cause of death of a person who the Mafia kills. Your ability has 3 charges

For example: Mafia kills Deodat Lawson, you change the cause of death.

Available Messages

They were killed by a

They were shot by a

They were stabbed by a.

They were mauled by a

They were incinerated by an

They were executed by the

They died from guilt.

They apparently committed suicide

They died from guilt over lynching the

They were drained by a

They were stoned by

They were killed by the 's Ghoul

They were poisoned by the

They were hexed by the

They were killed by the

They were killed by an

They were obliterated by, Horseman of the Apocolypse

They were bitten by a

They died guarding somebody

They were staked by a

They were assaulted by a


 * Your target is a member of the Mafia!


 * Your target could be, , , , Medical Examiner

/ : Your target modifies the dead. They must be a Medical Examiner!

Achievements:

Our hands are clean: Change one cause of death

It was the madman: Change a cause of death to Serial Killer

It was the beast: Change a cause of death to Werewolf

It was fire: Change a cause of death to Arsonist

Goodbye old friend: Change the cause of death of a Mafia member

How?: Change your own cause of death.

Ideas? Suggestions? Let me have it It's a decent role, but it isn't needed whatsoever. Why is that?

Because THIS ROLE HAS ZERO OVERALL EFFECT DEPENDING ON THE ROLE LIST.

This role is meant SPECIFICALLY ONLY FOR ALL ANY and will only apply for it.

Other gamemodes are faction-specific. You won't get Vampires in Mafia returns. You won't get NK's other than SK in classic.

Because NO GAME MODES HAVE THE COVEN AND MAFIA IN THE SAME GAME OTHER THAN CUSTOM AND ALL ANY.

Plus, most of the choices given are very role-dependent, like the Hypnotist. Pest, VH, Veteran, jester, vigilante, Coven, guilt, Jailor, and others are completely useless. All it takes is for someone to go: "I'm not vet, theres a medical examiner." "Jailor is already dead/executed a differnet guy, M E confirmed" "lol no pest/jester/vigi died, medical examiner confirmed"

That's the severe issue with this role and ALL roles that change the cause of death. They have. No. Effect.

No Mafia members are going to have defense or are going to be astral. You can't just walk by a Lookout or Spy who has done their job for years, especially the Spy. The lore is bullshit if they can just waltz by the spy with no reprocussions.

The only useful ones here are SK, Vampire, and some coven roles, which aren't useful either by N3. Medusa death is bullshit, CL death is bullshit, HM death is bullshit, and poisoner death is bullshit. Why? Because they need the necronomicon and two people dont die from the same role in the same goddamn night.

The other reason?

If Mafia are confirmed to exist, then all these deaths are immediately shrugged off as a Mafia kill instead, making it's use pointless. People can instantly confirm these actions never happened, and boom, a Medical Examiner is confirmed to exist and any results that HAS ITS NAME IN IT and AREN"T CONFIRMED are lynched instantly.