Board Thread:Role Ideas (Mafia)/@comment-28092296-20180802192547/@comment-31919347-20180802210251

RubikJohn wrote: TheRetroPioneer wrote: Attack: None Defence: None

all good, ofc

Ability: Fabricate somebody at night

'''nice, simple, concise. I like it already'''

Attributes: You can fabricate three times.

im expecting this ability to be powerful enough, if it has 3 uses

Fabricating Ability: Change somebody’s role at night not actually though, right-- If your target dies that night, they will appear as your disguised role. so, it's kind of like disg rehash Sheriffs, Investigators and other investigating roles will bypass this. then..who tf will they appear as the fake role to..? Janitors and Medusas will override this. see above

Investigation Results: Sheriff: Mafia nice Investigator: Your target could be a Doctor, Disguiser, Serial Killer, Potion Master, or a Fabricator. (Side Note: Since Disguisers will disguise themselves every night, they could theoretically put with any investigation result and it wouldn’t matter, so I’m not counting the “two mafia in one investigation result” problem here.) yep, good. Reveal: Your target uses objects to fabricates lies. They must be a Fabricator. pretty basic, could use some improving.

Addressing Possible Concerns: This can easily make Mafia seem like a confirmed town: Usually, when somebody spits out an accusation, they are put on trial and hanged, or they are considered innocent and the prosecutor is put on trial, or ignored. Since hanged people won’t be affected by the Fabricator, the “confirmed town” becomes much harder to pull off—the Mafia member is reliant on the fact that their target is not executed by the Jailor or hanged. Roles like Consigliere are further evidence that making an evil role a “confirmed town” is not super powerful. alright Changing Somebody’s role at night is useless: This role is a powerful asset in role lists such as the Ranked Mode role list, where people can’t use the strategy of eliminating role claims by seeing what roles are possible. For All Any and other randomized role lists, this role can make claims (such as a Sheriff accusing a Mafia member) invalid. yeah, this is the one I was worrying about. The Person’s Will Can Override Fabrications: People save fake wills often. Somebody that appears as an Executioner with a Sheriff will be called an Executioner. Main points:

+Simplicity is always appreciated, and this role nails it. I like how there's just one simple ability with three uses, like most maifa roles. It makes the role nice and easy to understand, and new player friendly.

+Though this role is on the less powerful side, I don't think it's that big of a deal. It's not as powerful as janitor, for example, but the balancing isn't bad enough. However, I would consider either increasing or removing the amount of abilities this role has, at the least.

-It's really similar to disguiser, even though it uses the ability completely differently. To me, that isn't a big problem at all, but after all the resemblance is uncanny, and I don't know how BMG would react. The only other improvement I see is the consig result, so there aren't too many problems.

'''I got a good idea to make it less like the Disguiser. What if this was the new Disguiser? A whole new rework?'''

Overall, I'd give it a

"Solid idea"/10 IGN

Do I even need to put anything here?