Thread:Vertroyer/@comment-71.244.139.48-20170624140916/@comment-71.244.139.48-20170624204622

' Grudge holder? Stop looping, lad. Of course I'd answer Yami politely because she's been here for a while, well known for her contributions to the wiki and she's an active bureaucrat here. You on the other hand, popped outta nowhere, started drama, apologized (I'll give you credit for that) then you went off to Haw and started shaming him, stopped there again and in the end you played the "well idk, just chill" card pretending you're innocent. '

''' It's fair that your answers might be slightly different,  but it's your job to answer questions, and it would be appreciated if we could argue on one part of the wiki and stay ok on the other. There is no need to bring our bitterness to other parts of the wiki. You straight of slammed me and didn't answer my question. I wo't be rude to you if you won't be rude to me. And as I said a million times, my intention was NOT to start drama. It did a little, but I didn't do that on purpose. And I am NOT innocent because I was rude in the orginal post. But don't go saying you're innocent either. '''

If you think I'm rude with that answer, then you're just as sensitive as little girl, that's not even close to how rude I can be. I have already read the whole argument, and I don't buy it one bit because of the humblebragging and the "idk" card you played, not genuine at all, especailly seeing that you suddenly popped your noggin outta nowhere with a claim so sudden.

Maybe I am sensitive. I don't know. But you shouldn't have that big of a problem problem with that. Some people have no emotions, and some people get triggered too easily. If that's me, you can say so, I'd be fine with it. Just don't try and change me. Respect different personalities, dude. And I don't even know what you mean by the idk card. If you mean that I was faking having a bad day to be innocent, I really was, ok? I already have admitted I wasn't innocent. That day, I had enough and just shitted spicy and sondz. I regret some of it, but it is still true.

His ban gets lifted and it happens again, so friggin what? Even after the ban, he just got into Spicy's discord server, messed around a bit, and they didn't explode like on the wiki. If it even happens again, ban comes back, mess gets sweeped up, simple.

So friggin what? Spicy will be wasting his time and firetiger will be getting happiness out of that! Neither of them deserve those emotions, so I'd rather just have it gone altogether. If firetiger was as bad as he was before, I hope he gets banned pretty quick, but if people don't argue at him and ignore him, he has nothing to go off of and might be a semi-sane user.

Don't throw the "idk" card on the Discord thing, any dummy could've just went to Spicy's profile and seen it, right friggin there. Your stalking is not reliable for gain of info, deal with it.

I just didn't know the whole story, and didn't know discord was responsible for it. Heck I barely knew was discord was. I knew it was just some chatting sight. I don't care for reading people's profiles anyway. You have yet to say proof on how you know fir a fact that firetiger is 12. Do you know how easy it is to tell a lie there?

What Spicy did was wrong and you're telling him that ages after the event happened? No shit sherlock! Spicy has that off his mind and he doesn't want to go back to it again, he's not the type to look back at problems and get stirred up in it again. You're not helping whatsoever, so lemme give you a news flash: you're legit trying to stir up drama, you're trying to revive a problem that has been resolved and can be resolved again if it reappears, you're no good guy.

Ages after? Not really ages. Firetiger got banned a few days ago. 'm just saying in case it happens again. I just think Spicy doesn't understand trolls, so he doesn't think he did anything in the wrong. That's just what I'm trying to tell him. I'm not really trying to start up drama, but I did. only a tiny, tiny fraction of it was on purpose. And I've already argued why the problem isn't fully resolved. It could happen with another new user too.

Desperate? Yeah, let's ignore all the other points I said and just focus on this one little sliver as proof that "I'm desperate", seems the other way around boi. Replying to a petty detail is a petty argument itself, man up and get some big talk.

This is where I really got pissed off. Your exact same argument could be put back at your little caps lock statement. If you think I'm a screaming child because I put a few lines of emphasis, THAT'S petty, man. Don't like me replying to it? Don't do it in the first place.

You wanna help eh? I don't mind, but you gotta listen mate. I've known Spicy for a while now, and reminding him of an issue, even if it's trying to give him hindsight advice, does not help at all. If you really want to help, you gotta keep silent about it, because reminding a person like Spicy of such problems is re-adding fuel and fire to an already extinguished one, you get me?

Yeah, even if I had an ok day, I probably still would have said that, just in a less rude way. You're not spicy, and neither am I. Neither of us can prove anything if that would have helped or not. It did add osme fuel back into the fire, but it''s worth it if it helped him for future users. Note that i am not saying spicy is an ignorant idiot. I would never say that. He is a good person. Just on the evidence given, it doesn't seem like he gets trollers.

My ignorance will not get you banned because there is no ignorance on my side. You can't answer for the accusation of ignorance I've thrown on you, so you throw it back as last effort. If it was in my hands, you'd get a permanent ban if I didn't see the gronw-up response I asked of you to do, ay? But Yami's too generous and merciful, something I can't fully get along with.

You ignore the fact that I harly had any malicious intent. You just assume I'm the worst guy possible from one edit. And you say I'm ignorant because I didn't know about discord. Ok, fine. But so far, yo haven't proved that me not being on discord doesn't make a difference. Me being malicious or not makes a huge different. I can't believe you would perma ban me for this anyway. I talked to yami about this. I'm ins hock right now. I'm speaking to the anon's right now, I'm glad you're not a crat.

There's no point asking Spicy to get banned, he resolved it with Sondz and Firetiger shortly after at the heat of the event. Your case is different, you're trying to revive this case long after it's done, and this gets my red eye going.

That was for reference. You missed my point. I was comparing you banning me for starting drama, while spicy started some as well.

If you feel I was too aggressive or "rude" then I beg your pardon, laddie. See, I have a serious hate for people who can't get their facts straight, who try to help when the obvious result is harm, but mostly... thick skulled blockheads who don't get the point and refuse to cooperate.

'''You said you'd be chill. Guess who cant get their facts straight. Lmao. I don't see how I don't have my facts straight, beause I haven't seen discord yet? Really? I did try to help a little but also got kinda angry at him to get the point across. That's just me. And guess what: i thought it was pretty obvious you thought that about me. No need to fucking point it out. We're having something called an ARGUMENT, so of course, I think that about you, to some extent. It's called having different opinions.'''

I'd give a really offensive reply to that P.S of yours, but I'm too tired to deal with childish arguments on a bad day like this. I'm gonna ask you one final request: the Sondz vs Spicy incident? The Firetiger incident? zip it, Spicy should not see this, he is well aware that what he has done is wrong, you don't need to give him flashbacks.

I don't care. Give me an offensive reply. I'll probably get triggered but whatever. You can't prove he knows he is troll feeding. I don't really know why you would get angry at that anyway, I was jsut stating why I didn't involve myself: because it would be feeding the troll, making an entire contradicting point to my argument

Have a nice day. At least I'm nice enough to give a compliment, as passive-aggresive as it is