Board Thread:Role Ideas (Mafia)/@comment-27575896-20170407152429/@comment-27398195-20170412220013

ZedKiller13 wrote: But no faction currently, which includes protectives, has a backup basically. This would be a backup to the Mafia, since it can collect info from anyone that dies while doing their action, so in Ranked/RP, this can help if the Mafioso/Godfather dies in an attempt to kill someone who was immune, since either don't know squat, he can use this info and claim to be a role to get the immune person lynched.​If someone attacks and the person doesn't die, they're either healed or immune, doesn't take a detective to figure that out.

'''​And besides, how are you going to get the person lynched? It's kinda hard to claim vigilante in ranked(or is it just the people I get games in don't trust vigilantes)'''

It works great in All Any as if one dies then info is gathered easily, along with the usual 4-5 Mafia gained. '''​Yes, but we could say any role is great in all any, because it's ALL ANY! All any isn't balanced, so you can't really use that in a role discussion because all roles have to work well in ranked, and this one does not work well in ranked.'''

I want something that, like Vert said, raises efficiency of the Mafia to be able to use info gathered to win the game, which is HIGHLY used for Ranked/RP. ​Once again, If someone attacks and the person doesn't die, they're either healed or immune, doesn't take a detective to figure that out.

​And also, repeating myself here, but it's going to be kinda hard getting a fourth mafia in ranked/RP.

If you get Framer/Disguiser in Ranked/RP, you can't do much but make yourself like others. ​And the same happens to this role, because it's main power is mainly reduced to nothing

This follows that with a different investigative result that makes Investigators much harder to confirm because of the two Town and Mafia result, along with gaining any info working like a backup so the Mafia can use it to win the game.

​Sure, it may be a framer with a different result and a power, but in ranked/RP, it's basically a framer. ​Still rejected