Board Thread:Role Ideas (Town)/@comment-34703140-20190402050728/@comment-26234016-20190403003056

(To Quoth)

In regard to the tone thing, that's fair. I have trouble discerning tone even in non-digital settings, so usually words are all I have to go on, and uh I saw them as fightin' words if you'll pardon the colloquialism. Sorry for the misunderstanding. In regard to the death message thing, again, that's fair. Sound logic. Point to Quoth.

(What *should* I call you? The only reason I'm not calling you Raven in because of another Raven already on the wiki)

Supplier roles are bad for myriad reasons. Specific to Supplier roles like these that give extra uses of an ability, one's the confirmability thing, but for another, if a supplier is in the game, players are going to be less conscious of the limits of their ability, which can lead to hastier descisions. It also makes people care less about the penalties imposed by bad descisions. For instance, a Jailor executes more freely because hey, if they axe a townie, they've got another use from the Salesman, right? I'm not talking totally out of my ass, I have spent a few (short) sessions with the folks in the PTR. Suppliers really don't make for better gameplay.

This one is also bad for not being unique but I'll dig into that with my reply to Controller.

Quoth, you've got a pretty nice way of squaring the circle there with your compromise, and honestly I'm kinda vibing on it. My only nitpick would be the one you admitted: there's too narrow a focus, so the Salesman really wouldn't have much of an opportunity to be useful. The Retributionist has a similar problem (nothing to do for most of the game), but one that is forgiven by the power the Ret has. The Salesman isn't doing *that* much.

(To Controller)

Hey, welcome to the Wiki! *one glance at Quoth's page later* Man, and this fella's new as well? I've been negligent in my admin duties, lol

Well, you're half right, I'd say. It is less of a self-confirmer than Mayor, Ret, and Jailor. Talk to me about Town Power.

But a number less than a hundred can still be a big number, right?

I'm gonna assume we're talking Ranked mode, just so we can be on the same page in terms of where we're balancing from.

We've talked earlier in this thread on how, in the state this role is in currently, it would be easy for this role to confirm with the Jailor. And Quoth just talked about how the Jailor should reveal d1, which I presume is the general consensus. Bam. You've just confirmed yourself on the first night. Jailor not your speed, even though that's a role guaranteed to be in Ranked? TKs are ALSO definitely going to be in Ranked, and while it would take more time, the Salesman could confirm itself with a TK.

So, in your hypothetical, sure, it would be pretty absurd. But your hypothetical just isn't that likely.

Seriously, Quoth, 100+ edits in less than five days? That's wack.