Talk:Spy/@comment-32659738-20180619130250/@comment-174.47.110.86-20180920192859

Seeing whispers is op af, much more than seeing night chat. However, the mafia and coven have advanced roles to use at night, and it's important to communicate; not being able to communicate is just unfair for them, especially with them being found by other roles as well; a careless mafia will reveal their targets as non-maf, and if only one of those targets is maf, it confirms the maf as lying to the spy at night anyways; it's still overpowered, even if it's not AS overpowered as seeing day-time whispers as town. BMer makes it clear a BMer is in play, reducing whispers to a minimum and making its ability not a power play, compared to no BMing and neutrals being found out instantly.

VH is already not always enough to beat vampires; also, vampires aren't likely to reveal much other than their chat patterns and possibly a new vampire ONCE; with only one type of visit shared among all vampires, they can just say "attack my target instead, much better." No advanced roles to talk about in night chat, insta revealing forger.