Thread:Jallybwan/@comment-32783587-20180109025223/@comment-31680260-20180109192351

Octometaknight wrote: If God created the universe because we've established that matter can't be created or destroyed, what created God? Did he create himself? How? '''Think of it this way. If you're a game dev, you make the very rules of the game. And since you're the creator, you can edit the rules to change the game itself. Same principle with God. Not only that, but He is eternal. Eternal as in "before time existed", because He CREATED time. It's hard to think of as a human, I will agree with that :P'''

Archeological digs also unearth things that date back before the presumed dates of the Bible, such as fossils of ancient animals. If God created the world mostly the way it is today, why do these things exist? Why would God create fossils? To throw us off? That doesn't make sense. '''I don't understand your point here. When did I ever say God created the world as it is today? I know the English translation of the Bible says that He created the world in 7 days, but the Hebrew words for "day" and "eon" are the same. It's a mistranslation, at least I'm fairly certain it is. He actually created the world in 7 EONS. And if that's true, of course there would be fossils that came before the Bible - since it was indeed written by humans!'''

The creation of Synthia, a synthetic life form created only with inorganic materials, suggests that life might have created itself billions of years ago under the proper conditions. Billions of years is a very long time, so I don't have much doubt that at one point life might have been created under the perfect circumstances as opposed to just being warped-in by God. '''Did Synthia form itself? I think not. Synthia was CREATED, yes? You know where I'm going with this.'''

If God is infinitely perfect, as it is depicted, then why isn't the universe also infinitely perfect? Why would he intentionally create an imperfect world such as our own? To monitor it? For shits and giggles? '''I'm not knowledgeable enough to discuss the universe itself, but I can tell you why humans aren't perfect. We were made in His image, this is true, but Adam and Eve were persuaded to sin against God by the serpent. At that point, there was no going back, and every human was born into sin. Again, as for the universe, I would advise you to consult an expert.'''

Going off that God is infinitely perfect, why wouldn't he just tell us directly, if he has omnipotent control over us? Does he not care? If he doesn't care, why would he uniquely bless those who worship him (such as yourself, as you say) in spite of the fact that worshippers are basically wasting their time praying to a god that does not care? '''Tell me, Octo - if a gift is taken by force, is it really a gift? God wants a RELATIONSHIP with us, not a dictatorship. He may be our Lord, but He is also our Father. What kind of father would FORCE his son to love him?'''

If you were creating a story that was intended to be documented fact, but was indeed false, wouldn't you intentionally place in events that actually happened to support your points, as is things documented in the Bible? Just because some things are true in the Bible does not necessarily give it the benefit of everything in it being true; the best way to lie is to tell carefully edited truth.''' We don't know everything about the Roman empire, but we still know they existed, do we not? As to the lying bit - I haven't seen any proof that these events DIDN'T happen. For a more modern example, have you heard the term "innocent until proven guilty"? Same goes here - we have no real reason to distrust it, versus the evidence that compels us TO trust it. Even if it's not substantial enough for you, the evidence still points in favour of the Bible's events being true.'''