Board Thread:Role Ideas (Neutral)/@comment-31680260-20170505214612/@comment-31680260-20170505221557

HAWAIIANpikachu wrote:

Jallybwan wrote: Have you ever played Transporter?

​Yes

Have you been in a Town full of idiots?

​Yes, but that changed once I joined ranked practice.

Do you want to make Vigilantes shoot Mayors and Jailors because the Town just doesn't deserve the win, but you can't because it's gamethrowing?

​No.

Me too!

That's why I think Transporter should be changed to a Neutral alignment, so it can screw up plans however it wants - and it isn't even gamethrowing!

Also, it would fit PERFECTLY with the Neutral Chaos role - swapping people around so that the Vig shoots the Jailor, and making the Doctor heal the Mafioso would be so much fun :D

One good thing about this is that we don't have to worry about balancing issues - Trans is already considered "balanced" by most people!

I think this is a good idea, but it's not up to me. Anyone else have something they want to say? ​Not only has this not really explained much to what the new role would be (it's goal, who it wins with, etc) It really won't fit with any alignment

'''​Benign- While it doesn't directly kill people, it still can indirectly change the target. And it does a LOT of harm to basically everyone.'''

​Evil- While this would be probably the most fitting area for it, NE's that win with everyone have an objective they need to complete that results in harming town (Exe's have to lynch a town member, and jester's have to haunt someone who will probably be town.)

​Killing- This doesn't kill people directly.

'''​Chaos- Can't be here due to the fact that NC roles are instantly rejected. (for some reason unknown to everyone except the person who added it)''' It's the "Chaos role = rejected" that annoys me. There's literally no point to it as far as I'm aware of, and you said it yourself - the only person it makes sense to is the person who made that rule.

Also, correct me if I'm wrong but that's a rule from the "Making NEW Roles" page. Transporter isn't a new role, and the rules are intended to make things balanced. Trans is balanced (in my opinion anyway).

Although, going by what you said, it COULD fit in NE. In your "benign" section, you said it does a lot of harm to everyone. "Everyone", in this case, is likely to be a townie (at least 8 in 15 people are Town). NE is supposed to harm townies.

I enjoy debating with smart people, they're hard to come by nowadays :D