Board Thread:Townie of the Month/@comment-27575896-20180501201028/@comment-34797858-20180516232419

ProfessorArceus wrote: If there was no eligibility requirement, someone who puts no effort into the wiki can easily win. Honestly it's not a huge deal but for the sake of this debate (which is focused on this), it is. Eligibility only ensures that users are working relatively hard for the wiki so they deserve the reward. It's either ToTM becomes extremely casual and is barely a reward, or people have to put effort. I'd prefer the latter, because that's how everything should be. Put in effort and get a result. I intensely practise my musical instrument every day and I get good at it. I excersise hard every few days and I get fit. I strictly keep to a diet, I lose weight. Effort should mean reward. Not idly sitting around commenting one nice comment every other day then going offline. It all comes down to the community's lack of responsibility to ToTM. The Staff should not force work on us and even if they did, I'm sure we wouldn't accept it properly - some of us, I guarantee, will vote blindly. Fair enough - I have no duty to thoroughly look into edits. If there was no eligibility requirement, someone who puts no effort into the wiki can easily win.

'''Not nessairly, after all, the community gets to vote on who wins. Besides, it's not a huge deal.'''

Eligibility only ensures that users are working relatively hard for the wiki so they deserve the reward.

'''Yeah, but would anything change if we removed them? I don't think so.'''

It's either ToTM becomes extremely casual and is barely a reward, or people have to put effort.

'''Just because they remove the eligability doesnt mean that it's not gonna be casual. Think about it, we're a really really really small community, we get to decide on who wins TOTM, and that will require effort.'''

I intensely practise my musical instrument every day and I get good at it. I excersise hard every few days and I get fit. I strictly keep to a diet, I lose weight.

'''Good, and this proves the more effort you put in, the more rewarding the reward is. What I'm saying is that even if we remove elgiability, you're still gonna need effort.'''

Effort should mean reward. Not idly sitting around commenting one nice comment every other day then going offline.

Not gonna get you TOTM if you're just doing that; trust me, this is why I'm not winning TOTM.

It all comes down to the community's lack of responsibility to ToTM. The Staff should not force work on us and even if they did, I'm sure we wouldn't accept it properly - some of us, I guarantee, will vote blindly.

Wait, so the whole point of this is that we shouldnt be forced work, even though that is what the eligability system does; hence, the same system you advocated for? Thats like me saying

''hey guise i'm part of lgbtq+ but i also support islam. ''(Example #1)

'''The reason? You're trying to advocate something, when your points are the opposite of what you're advocating for. Let me give you another example.'''

''i dont care if you're gay; therefore, you should join isis. ''(Example #2)

See how they countradict each other?