Board Thread:Role Ideas (Neutral)/@comment-72.201.29.68-20170512142415/@comment-27910165-20170513015538

204.43.204.110 wrote: Precisely. Going down the list, Mafia: Spy now has the sole ability to see who was the actual Mafia target, giving it a buff it needed. Also, Mafia has an active competitor who they need out of the way, and will need to make sure it doesn't get down to 1v1 (NKs beat GF in 1v1 draws)

'''Mafia has an active competitor no matte WHAT NK it is... '''

'''And Spy... WHO CARES ABOUT A SINGLE SPY?!'''

Arsonist: Someone would have needed to already have died from Arsonist ignition, which occurs late game.

'''You don't get my point... '''

'''The CC doesn't attack until he visits someone who dies, then copies them... Therefor, if the first person who dies the night you visit them is ignited. (which is likely since so many people die at once.)'''

WW: Noobs would be the only ones who clone WW and attack on new moon nights. Experienced players will attack on Full Moons so that they stay hidden.

You have''' officially gave me ANOTHER reason this is a horible nerfed SK. If you do this you officially have gave yourself a .5 KPD ratio, which is worse than ANY other NK role...'''

Vig: Raises all sorts of witch shenanigans claims, and experienced copycats will save their suspicious Vig kill until late game. Killing the Vig as Vig also raises theory of Witch killings. Also makes theoretical Transporters a claim.

-Saves kill for late game

-Game lasts until day 12 and Mafia outnumber you.

-You lose

Jailor: Jailors tend to save their executions, and can't kill N1. Furthermore, should they be still alive, Jailor can proceed to jail them.

'''Same thing I said with Arsonist... It can happen later in the game.'''

SK: If there is a Serial Killer, you can ask to be jailed and say to put it in the will, and when the Jailor does not die, you are proven innocent. Furthermore, TIs will say you are a Jester, and if you act that way, you can pull it off. Especially beneficial as this requires you to be Any or have the Any as an SK, a situation so unlikely that you can pass undetected. By not killing anyone as copying SK, you can let them handle your dirty work and continue after they've died.

Then people come to the realization "Oh, that guy we thought was SK could actually be Copycat! Lynch him!"

'''Either that or Town/Mafia will lynch you to give you the win. :)'''

'''Once again, if you don't kill, then you are being useless, and not completing your goal. It is IMMENSELY unlikely that you would win that way.'''