Board Thread:Role Ideas (Town)/@comment-28278669-20170619080751/@comment-28112409-20170624132400

OP and UP is not the issue here. The issue is that it's not a good mix. Killing mixed with protective simply won't work, as evident at the top of the page where you couldn't decide which alignment it would go to.

"Bot Vurt ye stoopid bish, Jailer can protekt and kill at ze same tiem, why u reject dis?" ~That one smug a-hole

Jailor was implemented looooong ago, and the fact is, it's already implemented. Don't go trying to compare your role with an in-game one in an attempt to get it accepted, won't work ay?

Secondly, absorb everything except maybe WW? I'm sorry, but there's some lack of detail here, attacks of OP roles such as Juggernaut, Pestilence and Pirate are all absorbed but WW's maybe isn't? Seeing how you included the new roles in the investigation results, I see no excuse for you to not do the same for it's abilities, fix that.

Thirdly, back to the quote I made, Jailor is a perfectly designed role. Saying it's OP is a rubbish argument because it has well-placed nerfs. In addition, Jailor was put in killing because he was meant for it. His main job is to jail suspects, not friendlies. Anyone who plays Jailor. protects the Mayor and wastes many of his nights that he could've used interrogating is clearly inexperienced. You go in that ToS game right now and you'll see Jailors left, right and center playing the role as a killing one, not a protective one.

The Jailor's execution worries the suspect more than the relief his protection provides. What I'm saying is, when you get jailed, you don't instantly feel safe, because he can still execute you. That does not make him a protective at all since he worries his targets, which is why he is a killer.

This role lacks a lot of detail, notes and explanation. The mix doesn't work, and it's not clarified whether the role even is a protective or a killer.

Either do an overhaul, or scrap the idea.

(God, it's been a while since I've written a long essay like this, lol)