Board Thread:Role Ideas (Neutral)/@comment-2601:CA:8400:10:B4EA:43A6:42F6:2EC2-20190112225857/@comment-47.196.114.183-20190113011414

2601:CA:8400:10:B4EA:43A6:42F6:2EC2 wrote: Role name - Lunatic okay Unique? Yes Sick

Alignment: Neutral (Killing) ok

Attack: Basic ok

Defense: none '''A no defense neutral killing? better be a good reason because this means they can die N1, like Juggernaut.'''

Description: You are an outsider with a dark and corrupt mindset.ok

Abilities: Choose one person during the day (Discussion Phase) to kill them at the start of the Voting Phase. '''nk doesnt need a day ablilty? what is so special they need a day ability. its at night they get to kill right?'''

Attributes: -You kill anonymously. ok

-If you do not perform your day ability, then at night you will gain basic defense. ah, ok, but still why a day ability

-You may only receive 1 basic defense. so like temporary defense for one attack or one night?

“A lunatic has just killed a town member!” '''Woah woah woah. Killing during the DAY? nOOOO nononono.'''

“A lunatic attempted to kill a town member!” Just, why?

(“town member” is just an alias for the Lunatic’s target)

Investigator Results: Bodyguard, Godfather, Arsonist, Crusader, or Lunatic Yay hurt BG or Crusader claims even more why don't you.

Sheriff Results: Your target is suspicious! Alright, sure, no defense and not detection immune.

Consigliere/Witch/Coven Leader Results: Your target kills off people during the day. They must be a Lunatic. '''So it does kill during the day. I'll explain why this is a bad idea later. also, its kinda a bland result'''

Goal: Kill everyone that would oppose you. right

Notes: This can be problematic, as it is easy to kill off confirmed roles (Jailor, Mayor, etc.) with no Town Protectives on them. However, having no defense at night makes it a bit more balenced, if not, fully balenced. Removing the ability to receive basic defense at night is optional. ​​​​​​​Atleast you acknowledge that it might be problematic, but there is a much bigger problem. Lets get to the problem factor. It can kill during the day. Killing during the day isn't good in most circumstances, because it is overpowered, and it would take a lot of effort to program. The ability to kill something with no chance of them being able to defend is broken. Like you mentioned, it will kill off confirmed town super easily, and that would be terrible. Your idea that having no defense would offset the ability to kill during the day is completely wrong. It just makes it even worse than it is already. Plus, it has temporary defense, you're basically screwed when you're attacked, because you will be lynched or attacked the next night to finish you off. It has an overpowered ability, but is underpowered generally. Even more so than Juggernaut. Not being detection immune hurts this role further, because a vigilante could easily shoot you after the sheriff reveals you, or you get lynched.

In general this role is just an Underpowered NK with an Overpowered ability. Not the best really. You tried, you failed.