Board Thread:Role Ideas (Neutral)/@comment-28278669-20190424194927/@comment-35195751-20190426162506

Cupcakeaj2 wrote: Role: Possessor

Alignment: Neutral Killing

Got it...

Attack: Powerful

Defense: Basic

Good NK stats

Abilities:

Select a player at night to attack or a player during the day to make your vessel.

'''Day actions? This is new...'''

Attributes:

During the day, you may select a player to make them your vessel. For the next two nights, you will be unable to kill but you will heal them.

Okay?

After those two nights, they'll be made your vessel. Your first vessel only takes one night to make. The process will not be disrupted if you die but have vessels.

Ok first problem, this bypasses defense

You can only attack every other night.

'''So attacks are limited but not vessel creations? Wat?'''

If you have at least two vessels alive, you can kill every night.

If you die with a vessel alive, you can still act while dead and will be revived at the beginning of the day.

'''I was going to comment that vessels should just quit to win, but apparently they don't even know if they are vessels so... yay?'''

You will be able to kill two players while dead even if your kill is on cooldown.

The Sheriff will see vessels as suspicious.

Thats fine...

You have roleblock immunity.

Why?

You automatically win if it's just you and your vessels alive.

'''Screwing with other people's win conditions alert... (This is actually worse because it removes their ability to WIN if they are vessels)'''

Also I would just like to point out, you could actually autowin against the PESTILENCE with this.

Investigation Results:

Sheriff: Your target is suspicious.

Investigator: Your target could be a Medium, Janitor, Retributionist, Necromancer, Trapper, Possessor, or a Possessor’s vessel.

Consigilere: Your target is a powerful spirit who uses souls to stay alive. They must be a Possessor!

​​​​​​​(So investigators see Vessels but not Consiglieres? Lol)

Goal: Standard Neutral Killing Goal​ Ok this has some pretty serious flaws, and as you might have guessed, it centers around the Vessels mechanic.

I'm just going to Bullet Point some complaints:


 * Not Unique? What?


 * This wins in a 1v1 with PESTILENCE since it bypasses tha rampage abilities.


 * Actually the above rather aptly highlights the problem with day attack actions, they bypass literally everything that could stop you


 * Why does this guy even kill people? He has the most OP ability in the entire game!


 * Why does this guy have roleblock immunity? He has the most OP D'ay' ability ever!


 * There's no limit to the amout of vessels you can create, so if you just stay out of the radar, you can actually just insta win by day 5 in ranked. Hell, you can vessel someone day ONE.


 * Your vessels do not win with you. This will make your role the most hated role in the game as it ruins entire games for people.

Yeah I think that sums it up... I really don't know what would save this role.