Thread:MemeDaddy1233/@comment-27398195-20180525054855/@comment-34797858-20180527031745

HAWAIIANpikachu wrote: ''Well, then I showed that there's a better role of the Pirate. I fail to see the problem.'' That's like me saying a company owner is richer than a hobo. Stating the obvious =/= point.

No, it doesn't have a 0.5 KPN, but the reason why I compared it to Mafioso is because it is very comparable.

Wait I miss understood due to not owning Coven, I thought poisoner has to wait a night to make another batch of poison. (or was I right?)

''VH is a weaker Mafioso. A very weaker mafioso, saying that it's its own role is stating the obvious.''

Which is ironic because you did the same to the jailor.

Also the major difference is the VH can only kill vampires and gets nerfed rather then gets buffed

''Both have basic attack. The difference is that CL controls others, so that they can use a Mafioso to kill a Mayor risk-free, or a BG to themselves incase a WW attacks.''

The ability to "control" though is considerably weaken, a witch does this better as it can keep TPs alive for longer and f**k around with investigators instead of just killing them. And brute power does mean a lot as the SK has a 1KPN ratio and 8 nights of killing compared to the CLs 5.

Also, doctor > Lookout, including the fact that CL kills, witch at least can sort of bluff with it, lookout claims won't be believed at all. That's like me saying a company owner is richer than a hobo. Stating the obvious =/= point.

No, you said every role is a weaker version of the Jailor, meaning that I actually found one since and  have different abilites, hence, not comparable.

Wait I miss understood due to not owning Coven, I thought poisoner has to wait a night to make another batch of poison. (or was I right?)

'''Poisoner has unlimited poisons. Assuming that noone they target has any protection, the poisoner misses out a day of killing.'''

Which is ironic because you did the same to the jailor.​​​​​​​

Yeah, I actually found a weaker version of the Mafioso.

Also the major difference is the VH can only kill vampires and gets nerfed rather then gets buffed​​​​​​​

THATS THE REASON WHY I'M SAYING THAT ITS A WEAKER MAFIOSO

The ability to "control" though is considerably weaken, a witch does this better as it can keep TPs alive for longer and f**k around with investigators instead of just killing them. And brute power does mean a lot as the SK has a 1KPN ratio and 8 nights of killing compared to the CLs 5.

I guess that has some truth, except that the CL can keep up with the KPN by targeting killing roles with no defence.

Also, doctor > Lookout, including the fact that CL kills, witch at least can sort of bluff with it, lookout claims won't be believed at all.

​​​​​​​Except that Doctor claims are fucked if theres an SK.