Board Thread:Debate of The Week/@comment-28112409-20171025060017/@comment-33224790-20171026010125

SalemMurders wrote: Lazuli-Heart wrote: KarpToEndAllKarps wrote: Team Doctor While the Bodyguard can kill evils, so can other Townies (there's an entire Alignment for that). I'd argue that the killing mechanic massively hinders the Bodyguard, as even the greatest Bodyguard of all time will only save one person. Doctor can succesfully heal without killing himself, so dependent on player skill, you can save 4 or 5 targets throughout the game.

'''So, if your TP was a Doctor, yet they were new and rather bad at the game, it's practically useless, barely managing one heal. With a BG, no matter the skill, they often manage to do their job.'''

Also, don't underestimate the Mafia's power to win, even with one dead. In the Ranked rolelist, there is the Mafioso, the Godfather, and two Random Mafia. Even if the Bodyguard knocks out the Mafioso, there's still 3 mafia. At that point, they still have lots of voting power.

'''Yes, Mafia can still win even with a member dead. Yet, it makes the Mafia easier to take down with a member gone. With a Doctor, the Mafia's still in-tact, just slightly annoyed.'''

All in all,the Bodyguard is a wannabe TK, but doesn't work nearly as well as the Jailor and the Vigilante. This heavily hinders his protective ability, and leaves him of low value to the Town.

'''I'll admit, it could possibly be counted as a wannabe TK. Yet a Jailor could be counted as a wannabe TP, and nobody bats an eye. All in all, the Bodyguard is far more helpful.''' Doc is really easy to pick up and use. But thats not what we are here to discuss. What do you mean by managing one heal? Doc can heal even if SK, Mafia, and Vigilante all came to the same target. Also, BG and doc are very similar, except for the BG killing himself for a 1-for-1 (unless its vigi, which is rare). Also with the 3 mafia argument, its really easy to find the RM and Mafioso with sheriff, and Godfather can be found by Invest. I admit the BG is more helpful, but Doctor is overall.

I mean that, if a player is new or bad at thinking like the mafia, they will bearly manage to heal a player, as they will just be randomly guessing.

Here i put some facts from TOS wiki to prove my point

You can heal all attacks on your target caused by Bodyguards, Vampire Hunters, the Veteran, Vigilantes, a Mafia  Killing role, Serial Killers, Vampires, the Werewolf, Pestilence, or the Poisoner without the Necronomicon.


 * You can heal a Bodyguard who died protecting someone. This makes it so only the attacker dies. This also applies if the attacker is healed and the Bodyguard is not.
 * If you heal someone who is visited by a Werewolf, you will die but your target will remain alive.
 * Although healing someone gives them temporary Powerful defense, the attacker does not receive an immunity message.
 * You will be notified if your target was attacked, including a <span style="color:rgb(123,136,103);">Vampire's bite.


 * You will receive only one notification, no matter how many times your target was attacked.
 * Your target will receive a message about being healed. They will not receive additional messages if they were healed by multiple <span style="color:rgb(69,191,0);">Doctors.
 * You will still receive the message that your target was attacked even if they were protected by a <span style="color:rgb(69,191,0);">Bodyguardor have Night Immunity.
 * You can heal an <span style="color:rgb(69,191,0);">Escort, <span style="color:rgb(221,0,0);">Consort, <span style="color:rgb(69,191,0);">Jailor, and a <span style="color:rgb(219,173,89);">Pirate who role blocked a <span style="color:rgb(0,0,128);">Serial Killer or <span style="color:rgb(116,74,38);">Werewolf (On Full Moon nights). However, you will not see that your target was attacked.
 * You will also not see that your target was attacked if they were attacked by a <span style="color:rgb(69,191,0);">Bodyguard.
 * If someone is successfully healed, their attacker will not get a message of any kind.
 * However, if their target had Night Immunity, the attacker will still get the message saying they are immune.
 * If you heal someone who has Basic or higher defense in any form and they are attacked, you will get a notification that your target was attacked, but the attacker receives no immunity message. I have to go, proving more info later.
 * Yes, it can heal against all of those attacks.Yet I see that they can hide Night Immunity. This means if the Sk is attacked by mafia, but healed by the Doctor, it will hide their identity. This can harm the town in the lack of Death Note information.
 * It still does a life trade if healing against a WW or Pestilence, but this time the WW won't die. That's a UP BG situation.