Board Thread:Role Ideas (Mafia)/@comment-35922983-20180619055211/@comment-35356104-20180622052347

May I know what kind of quality you wish to see in your role idea?

If you want a killing role (Mafia killing power supplier is pretty much against the format of a mafia game. I think a lot of players are reluctant to accept any form of role support that encourage the changing of game essence. I don't see this as the problem of "balance", Mafia Killing can be balanced, I just don't like the way it plays out)


 * You have 3 uses (Of course we don't want solid 2 KPN for Mafia. I personally still can accept Mafia with moderate killing power around 1.5 KPN)


 * A drugged target will attack whoever they visit (Indirect killing so it don't expose easily. It also carries risk that might backfire mafia members but that's normal. We don't want a role that "needs no brain to play". Imagine a Vet that can't kill Town. No. However you need to account the weightage of risk to make sure it is equivalent to its reward. In this case, you may buff the use of ability or make anything else if the risk seems too much for you)


 * Non-visiting role will kill themselves when drugged (To make sure it has full use of its ability. It won't be too OP as Mafia can only reach the maximum 1.375 KPN with this role present)


 * Optional: Your target will be inform that they have been drugged. They won't kill if they ever visit a Mafia member. (This is to put its effect in place so it doesn't go too swingy (inconsistent). Sometimes it backfire its own faction really hard, sometimes doesn't. This may not be necessary as it is just to reduce the impact of possible negative utility)

I want to emphasize that Mafia Killing doesn't receive well from the community. You may want to avoid making role of this alignment. There are more factors to take in consideration besides balance. Even if this idea is deemed to be balance, it can still be rejected for any other reason. (Just saying, sometimes the reason for rejecting a role isn't that objective to be valid. It could any fallacies or principles of specific role in the community. Like "balancers" always see role as such "inbalanced", but I don't know why there couldn't be any exception)

Mafia Deception? No. This role doesn't show any potential in this category. Mafia Support? If I scrap the killing thing, it would be plain Witch rehash.