Board Thread:Role Ideas (Town)/@comment-38045493-20190111033839/@comment-47.196.114.183-20190113000744

Mr alexis 123 wrote: Cleaner 2.0 ( town support ) Oh god Goal : lynch every criminal and evildoer. right

Abilities :

- clean a player at night. sounds a lot like janitor

- clean a dead body at night. sounds seriously like janitor

Atributes :

- you can choose to clean a player at night. janitor much?

- If you clean and an investigative roles checks your target on the same night, they will see their true role even If they are hexed, doused, or framed. '''so a role that lets investigative roles see through role hiding effects? sounds op, but its actually very underpowered, as the chances are about as common as a framer and sheriff visiting the same target unless theres team coordination.'''

- investigative roles will see disguiser as their original role if you clean them on the same night. '''why would you hurt disguiser? jesus christ he DOESNT NEED MORE NERFS'''

- if there is a stoned or cleaned dead body, you can choose to clean them and you will know their allignment. ( town investigative, mafia deception, etc. ) '''so you directly nerf janitor by allowing yourself to see what the role's alignment was at night. this is literally a janitor HARDCOUNTER.'''

- you can clean yourself. what is even the point of this

Investigator results : medium janitor retributionist necromancer or cleaner. '''Medium, Janitor, Retributionist, Necromancer, Trapper is the correct result. '''

Sheriff results : your target is not suspicious. mmk

Consigliere results : your target cleans for town. They must be a cleaner. '''bland and boring. not good''' Ok, this role breaks rules heavily. The list is down below. You hardcounter THREE MAFIA MEMBERS and its a TOWNIE REVERSE JANITOR THINGY. God awful. I have nothing more to say. This role is terrible. You need to get it through that skull of yours that this role ain't anywhere NEAR up to par. Either take your time with making roles and balancing them, or don't post them at all. Simple enough. God this was a waste of time.
 * Hardcounters - Any role that exists purely to counter or nerf another role.
 * Re-hashes - Mafia/Neutral/Coven versions of Town roles or vice-versa.
 * Slightly Changed Role - Any role that is extremely similar to an existing one.
 * Town Plus - Any role that actively buffs the Town or nerfs non-Town roles.