Board Thread:Role Ideas (Town)/@comment-25185068-20181206070750/@comment-28112409-20181206074138

Aaaaaand what's the point of this?

If you boil this role down, it narrows down the possible role of someone into one group or possibility. However, the possbility is much broader than an Investigator's results and more vague than a Sheriff's.

You also didn't consider roles that fit into multiple results. For example, Arsonist fits into the Killing sub-class but also fits the Detection immune sub-class. Which message are you gonna get if you investigate him? Others include: Jester, Witch, Executioner, Godfather, Plaguebearer, Pirate, Juggernaut, Pestilence and Vampire. All those roles have detection immunity and they also fit into a 2nd alignment. These need to be thought through.

Another issue is, why would I want this over a Sheriff or an Investigator? I ran the numbers and found that the alignments limit someone's role into the following number of possibilities:

Your target investigates or deceives: 11 roles.

Your target supports the team: 8 roles.

Your target is evil or kills: 14 roles.

Your target protects, or so it appears: 14 roles (+Coven with the Necronomicon)

Your target creates chaos or avoids it: 7 roles.

An investigator can limit the possibilities of someone's role either at a minumum of 3 or a maximum of 5. The detective's minimum is 7, making it inferior ability-wise.

Sheriff's identifcation might be binary, being either suspicious or not suspicious post-nerf but it's super reliable. The people who are suspicious are pretty much guaranteed to be evil and the only chance an evil has at ruining his results is either via Hex Master or Framer (who isn't getting his buff btw). If the Sheriff can't get them, the Investigator and the other 2 (4 if with Coven) investigatives can.

Sheriff does a way better job at straight up identifying evils without needing to know roles while Investigator does a way better job of limiting the possible roles and claims for another player. Detective is just an awkward third wheel to a bike that's already got quite the powerful momentum.

I don't see a clear or proper purpose to the Detective that other investigatives don't do better and consequently, do not see a reason for this to make it in-game. The issue I've articulated in the first paragraph is the deal breaker, simple as.