Board Thread:Role Ideas (Neutral)/@comment-33534169-20171101000457/@comment-25375217-20171101004703

Ashtobro wrote: DatNuttyKid wrote: Suggestion for a better name: TurncoatBesides that, this is very similar to a couple of roles I've seen before, specifically the hiding out part, but I can't really remember why they got shot down.

What's the point in seeing the mafia chat? It's only really beneficial to townies and a little OP for them, so if it's just a way for the Ex Maf to side with the town, it might be a bad feature.

Speaking of which, how does the Ex Maf win? Survive till the end of the game? If so, he's basically a survivor with killing power, especially since the hiding out thing works like a vest but better. Or does he have a specific group he needs to kill (like the mafia)? I like the potential name. Also, good point for the mafia chat. I just kinda thought of it since you technically are a mafia, but it really wasnt thought out well. and yes, the whole point of neutral benign is not caring who you win with, just that you do so

If he can kill, does he really count as benign...?

In that case, he's really just a more powerful survivor who will, 9 times out of 10, end up giving the pre-nerf Spy back to the town (plus some free kills). And I don't really know how to fix that, except maybe somehow turn him into a Town Killing, but even that could end up just being a buffed Vigilante. So idk.