Board Thread:Role Ideas (Neutral)/@comment-37468018-20181111012323/@comment-36539941-20181111035302

RedJevil wrote: Name: Joker

Alignment: Neutral (Killing)

Game Information/Background: '''Way too long. It's a nice, dark story, but please make it shorter.'''

Attack: Powerful

Defense: Basic

Unique Role: Yes

Priority: 4

Abilities: Choose what type of card you'll be using at night.

Attributes: All four types of cards have different effects.

Mechanics: (How It Works)

- Choose what type of card you'd like to use during the day, and who to perform the trick for during the night.

'''But you just said that you choose the card at night?? I assume you choose at day, correct me if I'm wrong.'''

- If you choose to use the Hearts, your target will be given Powerful Defense

'''It can heal, like a Doctor. Only going to hurt it, tbh.'''

- If you choose to use the Diamonds, your target and whoever visits them will be Roleblocked

'''A NK that can mass Roleblock? A bit strong for a role that can also kill.'''

- If you choose to use the Clubs, your target will die, and be cleaned

'''An NK that can clean? Nice concept, but it's a bit OP for NK, considering it'd be equal to a stronger SK attack that cleans.'''

- If you choose to use the Spades, you will be able to select three people to kill.

'''Nononononono. First off, you'd need 3 of those rectangle thingies, and the max is 2 right now. But what I'm more concerned about is the fact that it can do 3 kills IN ONE NIGHT. That's just broken. You could pretty much wipe out all the Mafia or Coven in one night, or kill off TP, LO and Jailor at once. '''

- You must use the entire deck before you get to shuffle the deck (get the option to use the different types of cards again)

Alright, makes sense.

-Investigative Results-

Sheriff: Your target is a Joker!

Investigator: Your target is an Escort/Consort/Transporter/Hypnotist/ or Joker

Consigliere/Witch: Your target wants to show you a magic trick, they must be a Joker!

Goal: Kill all who oppose you

Wins With: NB, NE, Pirate

Must Kill: All else

Anything Else: Compare this role to the one my sister made here While I do like the Concept of having a NK that is multi-purpose, I feel that these abilities are just over the top OP. Here are the changes I'd suggest.

Hearts - healing

This one's actually okay. Provides a claim for Joker (Doctor) and doesn't really do anything. Try not to heal people that you want dead, however, as someone else may attack that person the night you heal them, even if the chances are small, just don't.

Diamonds - Mass roleblocking

Here's where problems arise. Roleblocking one person is one thing, roleblock someone and all their visitors is another. I'd suggest changing to a simple Roleblock.

Clubs - Kill + Clean

I'm okay with it. Occassionally erasing info is nice.

Spades -Triple kill

Nope. I know you want it to have an average KPN of 1, but just NO. I suggest reducing this down to 1 kill and 1 poison, so that it still has an okay average KPN, but isn't blown over the top. I'd also suggest that you have to play Clubs, Diamonds and Hearts before you can play Spades, but that's my suggestion.

Overall, it's a nice concept, and if we could make it balanced, it'd be an amazing role to play as. Sadly, making it balanced would take a lot of time and effort.