Board Thread:Role Ideas (Town)/@comment-50.37.85.112-20190224164048/@comment-50.37.85.112-20190226034923

Orecreeper wrote: Why are framed targets considered attackers but Framer isn't? That's a pretty big jump in logic, and I get that its supposed to be a Framer buff, but why? It makes no sense, Framer is the only one of the three with immunities to this role.''' Framer in town of salem wiki: He then pulled out a handful of crumpled notes, detailing the locations of shady out-of-town meetings at night and written in blood-red ink while starting his 'death to the Mafia' spiel.​​​​​​​ The Framer is trying to appear as an evil to the mafia. As a KILLER.''' You don't need to state that you can't kill CL with Necronomicon, the role physically can't kill the CL due to its defense. Ok sheesh

So Necromancer is an attacker? Wot?''' If you say Vampires are attackers, Necromancer's are. They basically kill by summoning something else to do it.'''

So basically if you kill Town you become useless, but you don't get to choose whether you kill your target or not.

This falls under the same problem as Crusader: WHY THE FUCK CAN THIS GODDAMN THING KILL TOWN PROTECTIVES? Um...because they kill?

It can literally kill 2 fucking evil roles in Classic. How fucking dumb is that? TWO. And one only shows up in CHAOS GAMEMODES (Vampire). So it really can kill only ONE. Mafioso.''' Did I say ANYWHERE that this would be in Classic? NO. Hence the "Potion Master" in the result. And that's my reason why it's '''

Suggestions:

- Make it so that this role will only attack the player if they attack another player. (It makes no sen sure buddy. let me just make it so it'll basically only kill killers, and hexing and dousing USELESS

- Please at LEAST make the Excalibur immune to other Excaliburs, or just make the damn role unique. ok that sounds fine

- Make attack Powerful, because right now its literally so useless its actually hilarious. It's a Doctor that can kill one attacker in classic gamemodes and can kill every Framed/Doused townie, can kill all TK, and can kill all TP except Doctor. ​​​​​​​whatever