Board Thread:Debate of The Week/@comment-28112409-20171002232846/@comment-31256456-20171030044306

Jallybwan wrote:  Arso vs WW - WW wins 

Both go through Basic defense, but the WW can attack far more frequently. The Arso's detection immunity is only a half-advantage anyway, and the WW has a slightly better investigation result. And in the absolute worst-case scenario, when outed, the WW can bargain with the Town - offering to kill Basic-defense enemies in exchange for its life. Arso can't do that, since the Town can't trust it (nobody can tell who's doused, and the Arso would have already doused a few people at that point).

 Vig vs Vet - Vet wins 

Vig only has Basic attack, Vet has Powerful. The Vet can kill multiple evils in one night, and even if it kills a townie or two, it's instantly confirmed. Vet is almost impossible to claim as a Mafioso, but Vigilante... it's the most common claim. And even if you end up killing an evil as Vigilante, you can't reliably confirm yourself without dying. Veteran, once revealed, is often safe for pretty much the whole game up until the end, at which point it becomes a guessing game.

And let's not get started on the randomly-shooting idiots that make up 70% of Vigilantes. At least the Veteran can't randomly and intentionally kill townies. also wanted to mention how vig's role is often useless because the person who is being shot is probably going to be lynched- even if not, it's done by jailor.