Board Thread:Debate of The Week/@comment-28112409-20171002223259/@comment-31680260-20171002233443

KarpToEndAllKarps wrote: Team Mafia Coven, while interesting and threatning, is simply not consistent our powerful enough to be the main enemy of the Town.

Oh, is that so?

First of all, the Coven lacks a strong method of consistent killing the first two nights. No, it really doesn't... Coven Leader controlling into Medusa is OK (It's amazing, free Janitorial service as well), but chances are pretty high of you hitting a role that can't visit (She's got about an equal chance of finding one that can if not more, most roles can do stuff at night), a role that is control immune (Vet or Transporter? Someone who's jailed? Three roles isn't a lot.), or even a vigilante at the ready to shoot the snake-haired murderer (The Vigilante can't kill the Medusa on alert.). The mafia, on the other hand, has the Godfather and the Mafioso, who can kill every night. (The Coven can kill every night with that same CL/Medusa strategy you mentioned earlier, and the Coven can kill things with Basic defense.)

Many coven roles are also pretty situational. Take the Necromancer, who's impact strictly depends on the role list. The Consig doesn't need a dead TP or TK to get impact, and neither do the rest of the Mafia. They just do their job. When you're killing as fast as the Coven does, that role list gets more and more powerful very fast.

Also, a Random Mafia is scarier than a Random Coven. There are six Coven and eleven Mafia. Finally, those Mafia are much subtler. A Consig, a Consort, and a Disguiser can work silently, while it's easy to tell if there's a Coven Leader, a Poisoner, or a Medusa in the game. '''Consort's not silent, unless you mean that people can think it's an Escort. In that case, the Potion Master can work as both a Doctor and an Investigator (really a Consig). It doesn't need to use its kill potion if it wants to stay silent. And Hex Master is COMPLETELY silent until it gets the Necronomicon, which is a 1 in 3 chance. And that's assuming the CL dies.'''