Thread:Orecreeper/@comment-27398195-20180723195224/@comment-34403911-20180803231642

Jallybwan wrote: Akang22 wrote: Jallybwan wrote:

Don't tell me mayor doesn't do anything... Mayor not only reveals, but needs to stay active and vote. They are entitled to find the evils. Surv doesn't.

Doesn't HAVE to be, sure. They still CAN be, which is what you seem to refuse to accept. Just because you don't HAVE to do something doesn't mean you CAN'T do it.

Jesters and executioners both have goals. To survive isn't really a goal, as both of them have to survive before getting their target/themselves lynched.

Jester's goal is the exact opposite of survival... and yes, surviving is a goal. But if that's not enough for you, as I have said, make yourself a personal goal.

Wow. What I have been debating with Hawaiian the whole time above is that fun should be built-in.

And if it's not, you need to find a way to make it fun. '''I'm not going to even comment. Can you follow up on me and Hawaiian's conversation before refuting one of my points?'''

​​​​​​​This way we can stop arguing about things that have been clearly discussed and went over with the against the removal/change side.