Thread:Orecreeper/@comment-27398195-20180723195224/@comment-27398195-20180729043736

Actually I've moved a while ago and just been too lazy to change where I am

medium is sort of a meme so I don't really get what you gain from arguing that medium sucks...

Medium is the closest thing to a survivor we have.

the vet could then whisper, no point in going into a 1v1 over that.

I mean it's not like claiming vigilante as veteran isn't a bad thing for veteran as they can just post veteran will.

So basically you mean that if other roles are fixed (like cough cough the worst neutral killing role of all time (crusader)) you would also agree that survivor needs a change?

Yep, but survivor would be waiting for a looooooong time.

Because the game isn't perfect yet, and taking steps like making ambusher less op and changing survivor will help us go towards that.

Ambusher isn't OP, Ambusher is garbage.

How much people, do you think, in a kingmaking scenario, would outvote a person who deserves the win NOT BY CHANCE?

Explain?

Don't forget really easy confirmation

True

And also can confirm evils like solo gf if rbed

Most of the time it's either Jailor or invest

Pretty good for me and easy confirmation

The downside is though you are a v o t e

I don't understand how it refutes my original point though. In that entry itself it says it's a 50 50 chance that they will guess it (probably less, since it isn't clear to all players that they would choose to bite a survivor). Also, how is that bad? I find that it's more satisfying to bite more people and convert them to your vamp cause, and getting some vamps killed as well. Money comes and goes.

Because it becomes a WIFOM if you should check if they bit the survivor or not.