Board Thread:Role Ideas (Mafia)/@comment-37648484-20190214020354/@comment-35195751-20190227225527

CrownedTraitor wrote: Role: Gambler (Mafia Support)

Attack: Powerful Attack/ Basic Attack

Why does a support role have two kinds of attacks?

Why does it even have one?

Defense: None

Good.

Description: An addicted risk-player of the mafia often causing more harm than good.

Ability: Selecting a target at night and choose an action from consider, risk and prize.

My Pirate senses are tingling...

Attributes:

- The actions have a three-day cooldown

My Potion master senses are tingling...

- Consider grants a target "After visiting their own selected target they receive the urge to visit a random person's house, all non-visiting roles will also be affected, however the victim will never visit you." (Target will not know) Gambler visiting target is Priority 3, while the effect activates at Priority 6, you do not need to be alive for this to activate) That seems waaaaay too random to actually be helpful... Do they perform their actions though? Because that would make the Vigilante an interesting case of being able to kill someone after shooting a townie...

- Risk grants a target "The urge to "kill" for killing roles", a Jailor would have a chance to kill or not kill their jailed target, Vigilante would attack someone random it might even be your teammate, A Veteran would alert and will sadly kill you" (Target will know they have been affected only if they are a town killing role, if they are not nothing happens) Priority 3 Ability. Wait so does the previous thing only make them visit for the purpose of getting murdered by Crusaders and Veterans then? This seems actively harmful to use I guess Jailor murdering a town would be helpful...

- Prize deals a Powerful Attack to the selected target only if they are priority 1 and 2 roles, such as Jailor, Escort, Transporter, Witch/CL and Veteran. (Day Ability) if they are not however nothing happens. -.- Thats hecka random

- Your name is revealed if the selected target for Prize dies, you also you have a passive ability to commit suicide if a visitor visits your selected target for Prize, dealing a Basic Attack to all visitors by strapping yourself with bombs and detonating them. - Becomes the Mafioso is previous Mafioso died

And as fate would have it, this will harm you if you use it too!

'''Literally all of these options suck! Yaaaay!'''

Sheriff: Your target is suspicous.

Investigator: Your target could be Bodyguard, Godfather, Arsonist, Crusader or Gambler.

Goal: Kill anyone who doesn't submit to Mafia.

Questions:

1. Is Gambler roleblock immune? Yes and no, because Consider and Risk are not roleblock immune.

2. Does "Risk" work on killing roles as well? Yes, even Neutral Killers and the usefulness of Risk is at the times where your own life is in danger or if there are three people left such as SK, GF and Gambler, the Gambler can use their ability to make the SK target the GF.

3. How about Prize? It's a restricted ability used when your identity is revealed and a dangerous target is known

4: Can Risk make the killing role target themselves? No, because its impossible for that to happen. .*Coff* VigsCanShootThemselvesAndVeteransLiterallyNeedToDoThatToActivateTheirRole​​​​​​​

5. How is Consider even freaking useful? Well it can sometimes makes them visit a Crusader's target and get themselves killed, get them killed by a Veteran, get them Killed by a Werewolf or Juggernaut's Rampage, I think you get the idea. It has a rare influence towards the Lookout by deceiving them but this most likely won't be that influential. Actually upon rethinking it, this could work with ambusher..'''. kinda?'''

6. Suicide Bombing is that a little Overpowered? Yes it could be a litte overpowered I am having second thought if I should change it.

'''No not really, it's one rampage with a basic attack... this'd be rather hard to weaponize unless you visited a Jailor or something. (And even then, why lose a mafia member for it?)''' This is just a cluster of really really weird actions that don't really help you that much...

Not really a huge fan sorry