Board Thread:Debate of The Week/@comment-28112409-20171025060017/@comment-32881402-20171031165228

Francois2005 wrote: TEAM DOCTOR A Bodyguard can protect at least 1 person before he/she dies, while killing the attacker.

A Doctor can heal at least 1 person before he/she dies.

This supports the BG argument.

However, with the fact that Doctors and Bodyguards can survive more than 1 night, means they have more versatility.

Well yes, but this goes for every role.

It is true, that they cannot protect an unrevealed Mayor That's just not true; anyone can protect an unrevealed Mayor., unlike a Bodyguard, but when they end up doing the wrong move, the Bodyguard's backfire is more negatively impactful than a Doctor.

wrong move'? What? '''

Example:

BG protects SK.

Vigilante random-shoots an SK.

Both BG and Vig die. '''Nice argument based off of Vig random-shooting. This argument is null.'''

Example 2:

Doctor heals SK.

Vigilante random-shoots an SK.

Vigilante wastes a bullet. See above.

So, as you can see here, Town loses 2 votes if a Bodyguard protects an SK, while Town loses none, and even if a Bodyguard protected a fellow Townie and killed an evil role, the Town loses a vote in exchange for an evil role off the field (which can not really affect the game in terms of a Godfather-Mafioso team-up), while the Doctor, if he heals the correct role, will put suspicion on the attacker, and does not make the Town lose any votes. '''It seems like your misunderstanding of how to argue has led to more misunderstanding. Your example was awful. While I agree, BG CAN have a negative utility, it is only with the Vigilante. Protecting a suspicious player is a stupid move. Vigi has no other reason to shoot. '''

'''Don't base arguments off of randomshooting. This example was awful.'''

Also, a Doctor can save someone from a Werewolf and Veteran's attack. '''So? Doctor might save the target, but Doctor still dies. The BG would die anyway AND it protects the target AND kills the WW. With Vet, well, it's swingy. But sure, you get that argument.'''

So, yeah, I didn't really spend some time and thought this through, but whatevs, that's what I came up with.

bows and sits down