Thread:Orecreeper/@comment-27398195-20180723195224/@comment-34403911-20180727232430

HAWAIIANpikachu wrote: Hey many survs are douches and like trolling. Just like what you said in the beginning; If you were that good an SK you wouldn't have been in this kind of a scenario anyways.

Just because you didn't play well doesn't mean you didn't play better than your opponent, chivalry of a failed knight isn't a great anime but it did better than asterisk war.

'''Waiting on your response to my refutation, that will be the point here. No offense but how ironic that you bring up a point for your argument that you yourself have refuted.'''

Ummmm how is this related? don't other roles also help complete the final objectives as well? They all help towards the objective. And some of these are fun as well. It's not like you go out of your way to make the game harder as a TS?

Most of those roles aren't fun, they don't gather any information and are just votes or protection, the only information they can gather is info any role can gather. (Even though I love protection roles)

Yes, but Protection roles can Protect the TIs and the TKs, thus the name (mind=blown)

'''Same with Support (well maybe not trans). '''

'''And wait a second... Are you saying roles like medium are supposed to be TIs?'''

No you literally took his first point out of comparison. You were like (point X) if not (there is vampires). ​​​​​​​Ore said (there is vampires). The contrapostive of your first sentence (if there is vampires) then not (point X) is logically equivalent to your point. As he has proved (there is vampires) usually, your point does not stand.

That's not taking it out of comparison, if there's vampires in the game town needs to focus on killing them, vampires don't have to worry about converting survivors, so killing survivors just wastes time.

'''No no no no no. Ore is saying that either you have to get rid of that point or your original point. It, using 100% hard and basic logic, cannot possibly both be true.'''