Board Thread:Role Ideas (Neutral)/@comment-31680260-20170515054029/@comment-27575896-20170516150907

Jallybwan wrote: I love reading your reviews, they're nice and constructive :)

Thank you.

Points to discuss:

'''1. The double chat causes glitches you say? Interesting.''' But if someone already has a Night Chat, then it'll be painfully obvious to a messenger who's Mafia/Vamp. Most townies wouldn't say "Kill Cotton Mather, he's Jailor" or "Why do I always bite Mafia members :(" (True story, I never win as Vamp). And if someone's quiet, then that's a bit suspicious. I'll change the original post though.

'''What I meant was it would be extremely confusing on why two chat windows pooped up. And for RAPID Mode (first time using chaos), this would have nobody able to type in anything!'''

And, if your attempting to find Mafia members or Vamps, then why is it sounding like a Townie role, since that is what they focus on?

2. Gives Town a potential Night Chat: "Confirmed Townie" you say? Meet this BMer who never BM'ed anyone and passed a Spytest.

And then they get caught in Ranked because the TI slots are gone, or he became a Mafioso.

And early on, nobody is confirmed (unless the Mayor is an idiot who reveals day 1) so there's not too much risk in having a night chat. In terms of townies sharing roles privately, if they aren't Town then they have virtually no reason NOT to say "Hey, I'm Doc/Vig/BG/whatever." Late-game this might be a bit more powerful, but that's assuming the Messenger is alive. Also, the Messenger CONTROLS what people hear, only Messengers can hear what BOTH people say. They can deceive both of the people they run messages through and generally cause confusion.

'''AKA this would be useful in All Any. Also, in Ranked, usually people if this gets put in won't say ANYTHING important to the other person since they have no idea what their role is, unless they have been confirmed. That happens in Ranked/RP.'''

3. Not too useful for most roles: It's not a matter of how useful the ROLE is, so much as it's about how cheeky the PLAYER is. Messengers can hear "Tell the other guy that I'm vig" and tell the other player "The other guy says he's Doc". So it can spread confusion and deceive people all around, which mostly hurts Town, but in the hands of a smart player it can be used to catch out Maf members.

'''It does matter how useful the role is, ESPECIALLY if it's Neutral Benign, as their goal is to specifically help out other factions. If it isn't useful, why bother adding it in if it doesn't help out any factions? And if it hurts and buffs Town to find Mafia members, this role would more likely fit in with Town Support.'''

So, going to list them out here:

Pros:

1. Good role to spread around for people to talk to each other with.

2. Adds interesting layout.

3. First NB with a Day Ability that would fit into its role perfectly.

Cons:

1. Would rather fit into Town Support since it can buff both sides, good and bad unintentionally.

2. Is a Neutral Benign that would most likely be killed off the bat from annoyance.

3. Can be used to troll people around and cause false report stuffs.

'''4. Rapid Mode=Useless. You get 10 seconds to talk, and that is if you have a fast computer.'''

'''5. Ranked/RP people would usually chat about random things and not speak out any information because of the fact they don't know the roles but rather the names. (Minus unconfirmed)'''

'''Yeah, I don't see this role doing much good to any sides exactly. I would try scrapping it and trying to find something related to this, but not a Postman. This is still a new concept, so try out whatever you'd like!'''