Board Thread:Role Ideas (Neutral)/@comment-38127112-20190223222352/@comment-38127112-20190224033038

TheLastHappyPotato wrote: Connortheandroid wrote: Name: kamikazeGoal: make sure everyone is dead because of you Summary: you are a terrorist who will sacrifice themselves to send a message '''Uh... theme seems off (Terrorists might be an iffy thing to add anyway)'''

Alignment: neutral evil '''Wait. This isn't NK? (Reads on)'''

Attack: unstopabble

'''Are you SURE this isn't NK? (Also damnnnn unstoppable...)'''

Defense: basic

'''Good... (but another clue that this is NK)'''

Abilities: kamikaze at someones home

Attributes: -you will kill yourself, your target, and all of their visitors

Oh THATS why this is NE

'''Ok so this just... Insta-kills eveyone but pest? Then dies?'''

Not sure why anyone'd want to play this but (continues reading)

-if you are attacked by a basic attack your bombs are defused and you become a jester -

Oh ok, so thats what you WANT to happen tbh...

if the kamikaze target is in jail you will kill the jailed target and the jailor and the jailors visitors

That seems powerful O.o

-while in jail you can decide to explode killing the jailor and his visitors -if you detonate the same night you are roleblocked you will explode your roleblocker -if you are hit by an attack that is stronger than basic then you explode your attacker

Investigation results Witch/Consigliere: your target will take their own life to spread terror among the town, they must be a kamikaze Sheriff: your target is not suspicious Investigator: Medium Janitor Retributionist or a kamikaze

​​​​​​​I suppose the Inv results are fine

...Some notes:


 * First off, this has no goal. How does this win?!? It wins by having nobody left at all, not even evils


 * Second off and more importantly, this is Kamikazi from the Mobile Mafia game main difference being it kills visitors. I used to play it (and it is in fact what brought me to TOS). The reason it worked there is because:

A) It was a mafia member, and taking down a Granny (Veteran but with 100% 24/7 alerting) was a niche it needed to fill.

B) Mafia had no cap (ok it had a cap of 6, but thats much higher) and adding a kami was NOT a waste of a mafia slot

C) Games are shorter and can be played multiple at a time, reducing the issue of becoming a boring role that dies early

D) There were 2 friggen factions and you knew everyone on yours, you knew EXACTLY who you needed to take out once again it doesnt matter who you take out, just get the explosion right

This doesn't translate well into TOS because the game is a bit more complicated than "Town vs Mafia" (and sometimes fool). You have allies, you don't know all of them, and you need to keep certain roles alive.

It is also a much more social game than Mafia (app), so people don't WANT to die...

Thats just my two cents, anyone else want to comment

I hope this didn't sound too harsh, I just don't find suicidal roles that fun (aside from jester because he discourages lynching)your suicide is used to win by being the cause of all town dying