Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-28112409-20170924144238/@comment-28112409-20170924173431

Addfire wrote: Vertroyer wrote: URN999 was settled with shortly after. Vandals and assholes are still appearing here nonetheless. Who was staff and who wasn't staff doesn't matter, the point is it was a better time back then. Not that good, but certainly better than now.

I never said the winners are not worthy. I said the competition is not that valuable or that energized as it used to be before. Celebrations still take place when someone wins ToTM, yada yada yada. The competition feels burnt out, is what I'm saying.

They don't powerfully harm it, not necessarily. They can cause deviation from the original purpose however and aren't exactly in the best place for them. There are games that aren't ToS related at all and can be played literally anywhere else, why put it here in a wiki specializing to provide info for one game and allow room for suggestions and game-related interaction?

The HoS roleplays can be better if they are placed somewhere more appropriate for it.

I wasn't talking about drama as a whole, the adjective "petty" is there for a reason. By petty, I mean childish, unnecessary arguments that could've been avoided with simple steps. With or without hormones, the correct thing can be pointed out and done, age doesn't restrict you from that.

Shitposting is not crappy role ideas, its random threads that serve no purpose and contribute nothing. Threads such as "Hello", "Eyes of Love" where people just throw greetings and random things that are a waste of time. This could be done anywhere else or even better, in Live chat.

Nostalgia is not what's happening here. I'm not looking back at the wiki's "Golden Age" and then moaning with pleasure and mumbling "good times" like its a Crash Bandicoot game. The current state of the wiki is awful, and I want to improve it, and I didn't demand that it has to be exactly like the wiki's "Golden Age" period. I just want it to be better.

Let's agree to disagree if this is the case. My point with the first paragraph is that a lot of things have changed for the better. I was just throwing out random examples of things that happened...

Fair point for your second paragraph.

Third paragraph, well, we've tried time and again to get people to the DRRP wiki, it just doesn't work too well. And for the HoS roleplays, well, it's the ToS wiki, and... I just don't think they harm or benefit the wiki. They're just there.

My point still stands for petty drama, unneeded anger is influenced by testosterone and estrogen.

Paragraph number 4... or 5...? is kinda like edit racking, it serves no purpose and is unneeded, but we shouldn't demonize it, just frown and move on.

The current state of the wiki isn't awful, if anything it just stagnated over the summer. Of course the wiki can be better, but the grass is always greener. Things can always improve. But the wiki isn't a hellhole, and it isn't going to implode. Petty drama, no matter how influenced by hormones it could be, can be avoided with precautions and consulting. Many times people have intervened during such arguments and colled it down, making the intervention earlier or even before it happens is not hard to do.

I don't see shitposting as edit racking. Some users legit want to have conversations with people, and thus why I suggested Live Chat. I didn't say demonize it.

The current state of the wiki will and will remain awful in comparison to its other states. I am not being pessimistic nor am I trying to be. I also want the wiki to improve and be better, I just want action and proper enforcement to be involved. I want people to be active about this, not sit there and watch.