Thread:TheSheriff1/@comment-30895062-20180607050040/@comment-35010010-20180607133535

JamJamalWiki wrote: I see you think that Sheriff is an amazing role, if not the best role in ToS. Well, I beg to differ.

1. Sheriff is unreliable

- Executioner claims Sheriff all the time, and since it shares the same investigative result with Sheriff it is difficult to tell two apart. Not only can this get an innocent townie lynched, it can also make town doubt a real Sheriff's results and allow Mafia to defend themselves by calling their accuser an Executioner. However, the Sheriff could ask for any other TI claims to prove themselves when only 1 or none are said.

- Framer & Hex Master exist. Although Framer is weak, Hex Master is stronger as hexed targets remain hexed for the entire game. Not only can this cause the actual Sheriff to lynch an innocent townie and make that Sheriff look evil, it can also, again, cause town to doubt the Sheriff's results even if the target is not framed/hexed and can even make the Sheriff doubt his own results. '''I agree that the Framer is a weakling, but you're wrong calling the Hex Master stronger. The Hex Master is only a little bit more powerful version of the Framer, especially in early game. Then on, it does almost nothing except hex people, and only comes in true use if they've hexed all living non-Coven players. Also, if the Hex Master has many living people hexed and they have the Necronomicon (which they are second in line of priority to) they will appear not suspicious, and the Sheriff can flip the results on its head to determine the Hex Master, who will show up as NS. Additionally with this, the Hex Master wielding a Necronomicon attacks Hexed targets with a basic attack, so, they're basically giving the Town a process of elimanation ability.'''

2. Sheriff has limits

In Ranked Mafia/Ranked Coven, it cannot find the Godfather, Coven in possession of the necronomicon, Arsonist or Neutral Evil. It can find Werewolf, but only when it's rampaging and can die when finding a Werewolf who stayed home. In non-Ranked it cannot find Neutral Chaos. '''If the Sheriff were to find a Werewolf staying at home, the Werewolf would attack the Sheriff, and the Sheriff's will can reveal who the Werewolf is. The Werewolf acting as a Veteran is a quite weak way to play, so the Sheriff's will could save the Town. It should also be noted that the Sheriff can find a full 1/2 of the NK through interrogations. But due to the Juggernaut being very rare, it practically sits around 2/3 of a chance of an NK appearing evil to the Sheriff in a game. Also, the NC roles aren't that important unless it's Plaguebearer/Pestilence. The Pirate wins with Town as long as they get 2 successful plunders, which could be against the Godfather or Coven Leader with Necronomicon due to the Pirate's attack being Powerful. The Vampire can't kill Town, but they can kill evildoers such as all of the Mafia excluding the Godfather, all of the Coven except for a Coven Leader with the Necronomicon, the Pirate isn't 100% an evildoer, but can win with anyone, the Juggernaut before their second kill, and a Witch after using their one-time Basic Defense. It should also be noted that a Vampire Hunter, who is clearly on the Sheriff's side, will attack any Vampire that they visit, or visits them. Thus, Vampires can be quite weak if they wish to go against Town. The only real problem is the Plaguebearer/Pestilence, but by the time a Plaguebearer becomes Pestilence, they're usually lynched almost immediately if the Town is smart enough.'''

They don't even get a clue that the above roles could be evil, Sheriff has quite fixed results. See above wall of text in bold.

3. Sheriff is a scum claim

Noticed Sheriff is one of the most claims made by evils in the entire game? That's because it's the easiest. You do not need actual results like an Investigator, you can just write all your targets as 'not suspicious'. Lookout and Tracker are much harder to claim as you do not know who visited who, claiming Psychic may be dangerous if all three of your evil results are townies, and only Mafia/Coven can claim Spy, but can't if Mafia and Coven are in the same game. Sheriff can be claimed by literally any scum, Mafia, Coven or Neutral. '''Roles that have a common result/don't give notifications in many cases aren't rare for an evildoer to claim. These include roles outside of the Sheriff including the Bodyguard, Crusader, Doctor (Especially Serial Killer can claim this), Escort (If evildoer is Consort), Investigator (If evildoer is Consigliere/Witch/Coven leader/Potion Master), Medium, Psychic (Sort of), Spy (As Mafia/Coven), Vampire Hunter, and Vigilante (As Mafioso). Basically, many Town roles can be easily faked as long as there is no solid proof against a claim. The Sheriff is not the only role that has this ability to be faked.'''