Board Thread:Role Ideas (Rework)/@comment-36558623-20180815121114/@comment-35877119-20180817082605

Faraday242 wrote: In this change, the framer may select not only a townie but also a member of the mafia. The mafia member will have the investigation results of the townie.

For Townie:

Sheriff sees them as mafia. Investigator will see whatever the result of the other mafia player is. Psychic may see them as being evil.

For Member of Mafia:

Sheriff sees them as NS. Investigator will see whatever the result of the townie is. Spy will not see their visit. Lookout will not see if they visit someone. Psychic will not see them as being evil, they will see them as good. Tracker will not see who they visit, it will just say they visited no one.

I think this may make Framer too complicated/overpowered but I counter that with

Better complicated than bad

Many of the current mafia roles are very powerful such as consig and bm'er. The Framer is notoriously weak, only better than the Disguiser (like comparing garbage to trash). If the Framer could trick the town while protecting the mafia, it would be perfect.

If this role is too powerful the way it is, remove it's ability against Tracker, Lookout, and if it's really that powerful Spy and or Psychic. Atleast we have a new rework idea.

I'll be a nice guy and say....This role is good but too complicated for low IQ players in Classic


 * 1) removeframerfromclassic