Talk:Psychic/@comment-31849237-20190124232114

HOLY HECC i need to rant about this role

its so bad. it really needs a rework.

here is everything bad about the psychic

1. its boring. all you do is copy and paste results. it feels like you arent really doing anything. people who hide being psychic from the town tend to be yelled at and hated, sometimes even reported. while that hasnt happened to me personally, i have seen people who havent pasted their results every day and been yelled at, called a noob, and sometimes reported. it sucks really.

2. people always believe it. even if someone claims psychic and isnt able to be confirmed in any way, the townspeople are likely to treat them like a confirmed townie. as someone said below, "They're 80% evil, yet most people believe them from the start. You force people to reveal, revealing good roles like doc or jailor." also, if someone is able to confirm the psychic claim as evil, the accuser is quickly called an exe by everyone, as well as being lynched. the best part is, when their will and role are revealed, people are more likely to ignore the fact that the psychic is now confirmed evil than with other roles. an example of something similar was when i was pest and there were about 3 townies left. everyone else was pretty much confirmed, but i was still able to convince them to not lynch me and lynch someone else, on the basis of me being psychic. ive won 4 times in a row as pest and once as arso by faking psychic. the arso game was the best because there was also a medusa faking psychic and nobody really questioned either of us. the only time you're really able to stop the fakes is if they are confirmed evil early on, while most of the town is still alive. another example of people not doing anything about a fake psychic after they were extremely suspicious, almost to the point where they were confirmed evil, was when i was a confirmed bodyguard (confirmed due to exe) and i went to protect a psy claim. i was killed by the medusa, which was obviously them, since the coven didnt have the necronomicon yet. it would've been very likely that i had visited the psychic claim, since they were the only other "confirmed" town. one person realized this, and got the fake psychic on trial. however, after they posted their will and simply said "not medusa," they were pardoned. i left afterward so i don't know what happened. also, whenever i ask people to copy and paste whenever they don't, they refuse and get me lynched. i mean, i get it, people are desperate to find out the evils, but when there is a really good chance that it's all fake, it doesn't make sense. you could call this role "vfr: the role," because that's basically all it is.

3. it is overpowered. this not only means its not fun to play as, but its not fun to play against. since it is the only role that can consistently 100% find evil roles every other night, and since its the only role that can consistently confirm townies and survs every other night, it is too op. if you are in the evil vision and the other two are confirmed town or something, there is absolutely no way to get out of getting lynched, shot by a vig, roleblocked every night, or jailed and executed. with other town roles, you're often able to convince the town that the accuser is lying without getting them lynched, but as i said before, people will always treat psychic claims as confirmed townies, unless it is early on enough and they are confirmed evil. even then, people will often be unwilling to check if they are evil unless someone asks them to. there shouldn't be a role that can both consistently get evils and townies/nbs.

4. it takes no effort. not only is it overpowered, never questioned, and boring as hell to play as and against, it takes no effort. this goes for both faking it and actually being it. you are just fed results without having to do anything at all. the fact that it is extremely easy to fake makes it even more annoying that people always believe these psychics. it's not that hard to type out "A vision revealed that x, y or z is evil!" or "A vision revealed that x or y is good!". even after i made a typo in one of my fake results, nobody seemed to notice. while that's not related, it's possible that people just didn't care. plus, people should be making sure the visions don't have any typos anyways. psychic is the only role where you do literally nothing and are told who is evil and who is good. it's so infuriating when you are lynched for questioning someone who is barely even trying.

in conclusion, this role needs some serious tweaking. it needs to be COMPLETELY REWORKED. it can't go on like this. i would be fine with this being not town, but instead a coven or neutral evil role, so that it would be less powerful.

okay. im done. rant over.