Board Thread:Role Ideas (Neutral)/@comment-30255850-20171015211902/@comment-31680260-20171022235449

HereThereEverywhere wrote: Only 5% of the time you can reject a role, because it's utter garbage? Sometimes the concept of a role just doesn't work at all? I'm sorry, but anyone who believes these are the type of role it's okay to reject should not be reviewing roles. '''I would like to remind you not to pass your opinion off as fact. Some roles are indeed just too broken to fit ToS - some of these are even very interesting. We will give our reasons as to why it doesn't work, but sometimes a role just doesn't work. You said it yourself, it's only 5% of those roles, so 95% of them can be fixed and, if the creator is dedicated enough, will be fixed.' These are the most important ''roles to discuss properly, not with some half-donkied rejection because you think it's bad. Why? Because someone made that role. Someone believes that role can work. So you not properly saying why it's bad means that even if they do drop the role, they can very well go and make another role. Another terrible role that you'll just reject. '''WE ARE NOT THE FINAL DECISION. How many times must we say it?! If a creator really thinks their role will work, they can submit it to the forums. That is something we always intend to put in our "rejection" message (which we will hopefully scrap in the future). But those forums are much more brutal than us. I've seen a serious role replied to as "Joke roles aren't allowed. Get this trash outta here." So if you don't wanna go through us? Fine. Don't. But you'll have to go through people who won't even give you the time of day, in my experience.''' They wont learn, you'll just keep rejecting their roles until they decide to just leave, because of the unhelpful people who think that they're doing something they're not. Help people learn, don't make it easier on yourself by killing off the role rather than explaining why it can't work. '''There is a fine line between criticism and insults, and you're treading that line very finely. I've explained why this isn't the case.''' I'll give you a little pointer in role reviewing: if the best you can do to review a role isn't meaningful, and is only about one line long, don't post it. If you can't muster up two sentences for a role, then don't post on that role. '''This is a rule we already have, and one we've already stated. Rejections without reason don't count as rejections.''' I remember someone on the forums being incredibly rude, their lame excuse was "These roles honestly physically make me sick, so no, I can't just stop being rude." Are you guys like him? Do you not see the incredible flaw in that attitude? '''No, we're not like him and you know we're not. Find an example of a role reviewer actually being rude and insulting a creator, and you'll actually have evidence to back up your point here.''' If you can't manage anything meaningful to post about a role, or it physically pains you to see the role, don't post on the role. You don't have to, in fact, it's better you don't. There's bound to be someone helpful who will post for you. So just stay away from roles that make you want to lazily dismiss them. The only person making you post lazy and thoughtless statements is yourself. '''You're repeating yourself. We've addressed this.'''

Even the starter of the rejection trend hates it. Just stop, it really doesn't help. That's the whole point of this debate here, and we've agreed to stop using Rejection. Even /nosupport or /support are crutches for real reviewing. You could summarize your thoughts and opinions on a role with just one word, but you shouldn't. If they want that, they should make a poll. That's actually not a bad idea... good point. If they don't, then don't do it. Don't summarize your opinion, even if it's ten paragraphs. As long as it's ten paragraphs of thought-provoking and logically sound material that doesn't repeat itself seventy times - or any number of times other than a conclusion or Tl;dr preferably - post it. I apologize if I've come off as a bit harsh here, but you're starting to transfer from "harsh criticism" to what I percieve as a slight to this community. If that's not what you meant (I doubt it is), then I'm sorry, but this wiki is like a family to me and I will defend it as harshly as I need to.