Board Thread:Role Ideas (Rework)/@comment-28278669-20190307210702/@comment-33029617-20190408010230

Cupcakeaj2 wrote: "The buff for the Framer is a little too OP. Not only would it make the Mafia Killing undetectable to Lookouts, No it doesn't [Actually it kind of does. If the Framer's target appears to visit the Mafia's victim that night, then it makes them undetectable to Lookouts as a whole. It'd be better if this was a whole new role] but it would also make Executioner claims a lot less believable as a whole. Lookouts would automatically be outed as an Executioner when the framed target obviously appears as town. How? [Kind of like how Sheriff claims who lynch town are outed as evil.] Instead, I'm going to recommend what I posted before on my rework thread. Make the Frame last two nights and make it so that the Framer changes the person's Investigator results to whatever the Framer pleases. ​​​​​​​'''Framer's main problem still exists then. It has no effect on LO, Spy, or Tracker. [Yeah this is a major problem, but it allows for better claimspace for the Mafia as a whole. Mafiosos could claim Spies who were Framed if they were discovered by Invests] '''This would allow for framing people as a SK, a Disguiser, or anything really. It'd also allow for more claimspace for just about anyone, as it would nerf the Investigator a tiny bit and would allow any evil to claim Framed a lot more easier. '''Honestly, why do people think that they have to claim inside of their Invest results. [Not saying everyone claims inside their Invest results, but if an Investigator confronts them, then they would have to claim inside their invest results, unless they claimed Framed. Then they could claim anything they wanted, which would nerf claiming as a whole] '''It would even allow for more Jester wins."  My replies are in brackets. Yeah it isn't the best rework but it c