Board Thread:Role Ideas (Other)/@comment-39279656-20190603125512/@comment-39279656-20190603220415

Alright! Thank you for the review, I can tell this took some time as well. (And others, feel free to give your two cents if you'd like).

Instead of going through everything, I am just gonna go role by role and answer the questions and explain.

Circus Founder

Has to exist for other Spectacle members to exist. - '''Yes this isn't an attribute. But, I just stuck all info under attributes. :P'''

Visit 2 houses each night to recruit members to your Circus. - '''I wanted it to be able to recruit members at a steady speed so that the members are alive by the time you find them. 3 felt OP. 1 felt UP.'''

At the start of the game, two to four other Spectacle members will be un-activated. - '''Funny story, I thought I changed this to three after realizing the talents of the roles I was making. It shall be changed to three.'''

When all Spectacle Members in game are Recruited, you become a Ringmaster, telling everyone of this in the process.

Wait do you mean the entire town will be alerted, or just the Spectacle? - '''The entire Town would be alerted. A super powerful attack is coming up and this gives them time to prepare. I also just noticed this is the ultimate "combo role" idea, lol.'''

Attack : None

Defense : Powerful

Immunities : Control, Roleblock

You should probably put this information at the top, not the bottom. Also, I'm surprised it has Powerful defense. I guess it is a very slow role and the risk of getting killed early on by a Werewolf  before you really get to do anything is quite high, but it just kinda seems like overkill to me. Not a lot of roles have a powerful attack, so I don't see how this would be super useful. - '''This role is extremely weak early game. And it would suck for the other 2/3 members to have an idiot Circus Founder deny them their win because the visited the Veteran like an idiot. And, the info felt better down here. Just my opinion.'''

Sheriff - Your target is not suspicious. '''Just pointing this out incase you didn't notice. I think you did though.'''

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Ringmaster

If you die on Planning Night, or Circus Night, the Circus will be cancelled, thus causing your faction to lose.

Seems quite the harsh punishment, but I guess you can't make it too OP - '''Crazy thing, I meant to write that to say, if you die. Period. But that falls under Circus Founder too.'''

On the Circus Night, anyone invited to the circus, or anyone visiting you is dealt a powerful attack.

Why just a powerful attack and not an unstoppable one? This means people can be saved by people like doctors and bodyguards, which is just weird to me. I know the role has to have down sides, but I think it's already got more than enough. - '''Yeah, because I was thinking I should make a role that made this have and Unstoppable attacks. But, after more thought, I will switch it to Unstoppable.'''

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Ribbon Dancer

Abilities: Roleblock whoever visits your night target.

Interesting concept, but it really is just downgrade from Consort and Escort, who are just better in any way. This means you can't pin anyone down, or roleblock anyone specific really. I guess I'm saying it just relies a bit too much on luck. - '''I agree. Maybe it should have a limited number of roleblocks, but Roleblock the target, and anyone who visits them?'''

Attributes: You may not use abilities or whisper until recruited.

Okay, I get what you were going for with the whispers thing, but this would be so easily exploitable. Just ask everyone in game to whisper to one specific person and lynch the people that don't, as they are most likely Spectable members. Maybe just change it so they can't whisper to other Spectable members? - '''I forgot to apply this to all undiscovered members. And I like your idea. I will use that.'''

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Strongman

Choose one player at night to protect, you will grant them powerful defence. I know this is pecky and not at all relevant, but choose to use either defense or defence, not both (sorry I just get quite easily annoyed by such little things) - '''Part of this was made by Natriam, who spells it defense, which I disagree on. XD'''

If they are attacked with a Powerful attack, you will die, and deliver a Basic attack to your attacker.

I don't think this would be all that useful, as most roles with a Powerful attack also have some form have defense. The only roles this would affect are Pirate, Medusa (with Necronomicon) and Juggernaut (before his second kill). Also, does the same apply for Unstoppable attacks? -''' I may want to switch powerful onto powerful, yeah. Also, unstoppable attack just straight up kills you and your target. '''

On the circus night, you will give the entire Spectacle Basic defence for that night.

One question I do have for this role, is why wouldn't you just always protect the Ringmaster? If he dies, your entire faction loses, so every sane person would protect him. However, this would lead to the role being pretty boring to play and not really all that interesting. - '''That is the goal of the Spectacle, really. Once Ringmaster becomes Ringmaster, the other members are expected to protect him. The show must go on! But you must balance this with your entertainment value. Temping it is to try to out people, and defend your other crew. But unless you are sure he is safe, then you must defend him.'''

Consigliere - Your target wishes to become swole AF, they must be the Strongman!

While pretty funny, you should probably change this if you do decide to post it on the forums lol. - '''lol yeah I will. '''

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