Board Thread:Role Ideas (Town)/@comment-29669939-20161219134205/@comment-29669939-20161219192553

Ulithemuli wrote: ChickenPieNuggetz wrote: For me, this nerfs the role quite a bit. Firstly, instead of the role being a "Waiting until someone important dies, and hope not to die myself", it changes into a decisive role that HAS to die to use its ability (like a Medium's Seance). This is a buff, not a nerf. You now have more immunities, your ability is not affected by a role block or even death.

However, it changes the gameplay, in quite some major ways.

It makes it so the Retributionist is a good thing to claim, espicially when no important Townie roles have died. People won't be so trigger happy on you, so they will keep you alive for a while. Maybe. If someone claimed Retributionist and an important Town member was already dead, why not lynch him? In the best case, they aren't Retributionist. In the worst case, they can still use their ability when dead and resurrect a Town member who can actively do something. Your reasoning also applies - it depends on the players.

'''But claiming Retributionist would be best in the early game, where it's most likely not to have important roles dead. Late game, however, it isn't a good claim, but no one would claim it late game.'''

This also nerfs the jester ability (a little bit), as the Retributionist can just take the hit and ressurect someone after dying. It buffs the Town by allowing them to sacrifice someone. It also makes Jester gameplay easier since there is someone willing to sacrifice themselves.

But surely you could use the Retributionist later, when it's better?

I agree that the Retributionist could be changed, but not that they should be buffed. I suggested this instead.

Alright, here's a suggestion:

You can choose to resurrect someone at New Moon (not full moon).

'''This doesn't really nerf it at all. If someone dies on a full moon, you're most likely not going to die later.'''

Resurrected targets can talk during the day, but die again before the night begins. In case of the Jailor, they also cannot use their day ability.

Then there's litterally no point of reviving them.

Resurrected targets cannot vote. Zombies ain't got no rights.

That ruins and limits the best (and possibly only) thing they can kill with.

You cannot talk for two days after you have successfully resurrected a target.

'''No-one can claim Retributionist in those two days, and it doesn't do anything. Still confirms the people.'''

A target that dies after being resurrected can not be resurrected again and can no longer be heard by the Medium.

'''Umm... Retributionists can't resurrect twice. But I guess you haven't played in a while.'''

If you are roleblocked or jailed, you still cannot resurrect anyone during Full Moon.

?

You can only resurrect 3 times.

WE NEED THIS BUFF.

I do like the nerf that they only ressurect on full moons.