Board Thread:Debate of The Week/@comment-28112409-20181230235210/@comment-28112409-20190111080103

Pokechurin wrote:

Also, swear that I didn't take your tier list and just modify it, it's legit what I think.

I disagree with part of the forger point- outclassed does not mean outright bad. Of course you didn't, it's this magical thing humans do called a joke.

Outclassed does mean outright bad when it happens because a role is worse than the outclassing one in every shape and form, making it just a nerfed version of said role. It is a nerfed Janitor, it is a waste of space, Forger's existence is negative utility to the mafia because it's reducing the chance of the better roles to come in and reduces the chance of the undeniably better version of it from showing up too.​​​​​​​

If an objectively nerfed version of a Doctor was created fitting into the TP alignment, that role would be an outright shithole because it's wasting a slot that could've had any of the other better TPs. This applies to all factional alignments, including Mafia Deception.