Board Thread:Debate of The Week/@comment-28112409-20171002223259/@comment-25615841-20171003174046

TEAM COVEN

I think the coven has some pretty powerful roles. I don't think you can deny that, and so does mafia, but I feel the mafia also has a good few weak roles.

Framer: Bloody hell, this role is   t e r r i b l e   and I'm sure we all know why. If you dont, just imagine a mafia role that has a tiny chance to target a person who is visited, and the visitor needs to be a specifically a TI. Sure, it has unlimited uses, but the actual ability is so weak the role is basically only a vote for the team. And when the TIs die? Does he change into a useful role? Nope. becomes a completely useless mafia member. I think we can all agree that the coven doesn't have any roles exactly or at least similar to this work of art. Some may not be as good as others, but none are so useless.

Forger: How bloody ironic, I'm ranting about my own tag. Though this role is interesting, and you probably are already typing up ar reply about how you carried as forger, you have to remember that not all ToS players are... well, amazing, This role is rather difficult to use, but if used correctly, it can be useful. That's exactly why I'm not comparing it to the above. It's not one of the greatest mafia roles, and I also know its not thaaaat bad, but if this was a coven role, it would be one of the, if not the weakest, in my opinion, especially played by the average player, which needs to be taken into consideration.

Consort: All I have to say is that you'd think a mafia version of a town role would be at least a bit better than the escort, but I guess not. This one is also not terrible, but neither I or my teammates jump from joy when we have a consort on our team, especially when combinged with one of the other great mafia roles.

Disguiser: Again, difficult to understand, and still not the worst, but not a perfect role of the mafia. Just like the consort, this role is not a reason to celebrate if you find this one on your team. Though I think this role could have especially varied opinions, unlike some role like the framer, which I'm sure we can all agree on.

Mafioso: Cool role lore-wise, but not the best in-game. It's main purpose is to buff the godfather, and though that is a nice touch, it makes it pretty UP. It's an extra vote, and you can give it the fact that it can turn into a Godfather, but most of the time you die first, since the mafioso is the one visiting.

It's not really every game when you find yourself with a consigliere and janitor on your team, and I'd say the above roles put the mafia far behind the coven.

I'll probably comment on how most, almost all roles of the coven are a lot better than... those, later.