Board Thread:Role Ideas (Town)/@comment-50.37.85.112-20190209234355/@comment-32651233-20190210191535

50.37.85.112 wrote: 181.73.150.31 wrote: Town Mystic would be OP in Ranked. '''oh? '''Say vet kills n1 and vigi shoots n2, RT1 taken. ok, that's very rare but whatever Say BG dies n1 and doc heals you n2, RT2 taken, wow ranked is getting insanesay there's a transporter, RT3 taken. '''WTF. okay, i'm pretty sure in ANY CASE mafia is losing this.'''You know 2 evil names already if Neutral and Mafia are Mystics. '''your point being... It kinda looks like a sibling of the Psychic, IMO: As evil sometimes you can make it work and get the town to lynch the Town Mystic if you're lucky but then die the night after. um, ok? That's legit ONLY if those 3 RTs are taken.'''Knowing mystic's names means they can only claim Town Mystic and can only claim RT, reducing their own claim space. '''Is there a problem saying a TM is evil? A Town Mystic isn't confirmed. It's not like "Name" is the Mystic. like VIP. Dude. You've got deception. That's how Mafia works.'''

 - Budum Kksh

It's an interesting role for sure but needs to be reworked. Town Mystic fits Town Investigative more than Support in this state since it can gather information like a Jailor or a Medium but without killing power or actively talking to the dead''' or being confirmed as Town. Saying a Mystic is easy to confirm is like saying an Escort is easy to confirm when there's no Spy. The Consort doesn't have to claim RT. they can say that the Escort is a liar, that that person is a Consort. When they're dead, sure, claim RT. THATS HOW IT WORKS BUDDY'''. As a Mystic you can contact confirmed townies to organize information during the night and share thoughts and you can question suspicious people like a jailor. However, AGAIN, people will feel like they might not be able to trust them (unless there's a retributionist but that's a WHOLE other story).

It really feels like a strong role for town.

'''Y'know, the ENTIRE REASON why I took the time to saying that Mystics can be in 4 factions was for people TO NOT SAY THIS STUFF!!! Were you listening at all when I told you about the other factions? It really can't "confirm" itself from everything else, unless there's like a Spy/Sheriff in the game. However, this remains not saving you from Neutral Mystic. You're really only confirmed completely if:'''

You're dead.

A Consig/CL/PM confirms you.

Really, being ressed is the only reason someone might be "confirmed" as a Mystic. Yeah but Neutral Mystic really does not help anyone AT ALL. It's like taking Psychic and making a rehash out of it and slap Neutral in front of its name, give it a Witch goal, and then you  get a role that helps evils. It really doesnt. There is no reason why the town should worry about Neutral Mystic, because the goddamn role has no abilities whatsoever that can even affect the town in the least. All it does is sit there and chew claimspace.