Thread:RubikJohn/@comment-37421692-20190123020345/@comment-28112409-20190125110656

NapstablookInfinity wrote: If you think that Disguiser has the chance to fool a competent town, you must be on at least 50 shots of crack. Seriously. It. Never. Works. Never ever have I seen a Disguiser work. Not in RP, not in Gold Elo Ranked. Never.

If a town is competent enough to realize that a will is fake and legitimately forged, they will no doubt know when a disguiser dies. Like come on, you keep saying that Disguiser's ability is only a back up plan but that's exactly why it's trash! It can be a bit more versatile and comfortable in it's claims? Yes and no. Although your disguise can technically give you a small cushion, all you are fooling is yourself into thinking that your disguise can take it on from there once you die. No it will not. If you happen to die, you might as well be holding a big neon sign that you are disguiser. Why? Because if you are killed by an role other than an NK, you are most likely suspicious to begin with! Saying something never works doesn't mean shit boi. Your experiences do not generalize for shit to the reality of the situation. I've seen it work, you claimed it never works, anecdotal evidence and a counterexample all enough to disprove your statement. Zed has also witnessed a Disguiser fooling the Town. It is not impossible. RP doesn't mean shit, no one is competent there. Gold is still down there and low, gold players simply wouldn't be capable of wielding Disguiser right.

The town realizes the will is fake and forged because the TIs fucking paste their wills on D2 ya dumbass. Disguiser is pasting a consistent will from start to finish with his claim, all the way till death. There are no inconsistencies to pick out will-wise compared to a forged person's will on death differing from what they pasted while they were alive.

Backup plan doesn't mean it's trash, it means it enables the Disguiser to be more forward and less pressured when claiming and faking to the Town. He is more free to include his mafia members in his will or fake information because the other mafia won't be tracked once they see the role upon death. This has always deterred mafia from gambling on a fake claim and going for mislynches. Disguiser suffers much less from the problem because NKs and lynching pose no threat to his claim. He has a much better chance of convincing people because he is given more freedom to do so with less or no ramifications.

What does not dying to an NK or a Mafia have to do with suspicion? It is a completely plausible thing for mafia to attempt peeling the protective layers off of the jailor or aim for another sort of role that they believe to cause more of a threat to them or even leave a certain role alive to place suspicion on the townie and push a mislynch. The ambiguity of why he died to a role that isn't NK or Mafia strongly deters the Town from jumping on such an assumption. That excuse is a massive stretch supported by jackshit evidence.

Do you even have realistic reasons that aren't a bunch of worthless waffle sentences that actually support Disguiser being worse than Forger?