Board Thread:Debate of The Week/@comment-28112409-20181230235210/@comment-31256456-20190110183300

Vertroyer wrote: SCl007 wrote: Mafia roles ranked imo

Consig

Janitor

Godfather

Blackmailer

Consort

Ambusher

Mafioso

Hypno

Framer

Forger

Disguiser Nah, I disagree. This isn't how I would rank the roles. My ranking would look more like this: ​​​​​

1- Godfather

2- Mafioso (If no GF is present)

3- Janitor/Consort/Blackmailer

4- Consig/Ambusher

5- Hypnotist/Mafioso (If a GF is present)

6- Disguiser

7- Framer

8- Forger Mine:

1. Godfather (Only reliable kill on Mafia, Immune, generally highest priority for town to catch)

2. Janitor (Disruption. Gives your other Mafia good claimspace. Also not destroyed by spy.)

3. Blackmailer/Consort (Disruption. Easy for you to claim which keeps you generally safer than things like Forger/Framer. Both very versatile.)

4. Consigliere (Although Consigliere sounds broken, it really isn't in practical terms. In a Jailor meta, you want to reveal your role early anyway and that just makes Consig's role of checking worse, as its goal is to find important town and tell mafia about it, but in a Jailor meta, it isn't as valuable.)

5. Ambusher (Ambusher is pretty stupid but it doesn't support your mafia as well towards your team, unfortunately. It's powerful, but power doesn't mean good esp. when you want to trick the town)

6. Hypnotist (It's good once you have actual info and proves to be pretty okay. Not my thing though.)

7. Mafioso/Disguiser (If the GF is still alive) (If GF isn't alive this jumps to number 2) It's a kill. But with a GF it just exists I guess. Disguiser is actually pretty underpowered but it's much better than the horribly underpowered Framer. Really, it isn't that good, but a good disguiser can trick the town effectively, and plays a unique role that can confirm itself easily. A small buff for disguiser would be good.

8. Forger  (Alright Vertroyer I agree that Forger is useless asf. But it can still get rid of info from a TI... it's a tiny niche that is nullified by Spy, but it kind of gets rid of TI's info. To be honest though, that's a tiny niche and it's pretty unreliable. Even Consig can't save this role. Little time to write, little info to work of. If there was a few things I'd change, firstly I'd make Forger have some kind of a night ability. It would really help this role. It's a cool concept that's countered by way too much)

9. Framer (I have never played a game where Framer's limited ability has outright made a game, generally, every other role does better. Invest might get Framer/Vamp/Jest but everyone sees it coming and it's honestly stupid. Sheriff always sees it coming. It might disrupt very little, but not enough.)