Thread:Jallybwan/@comment-32783587-20180125220929/@comment-31680260-20180128004511

Anons unite wrote: 1. im saying it just.. seems wrong to have all this shit happen. think about it logically. it would be any athiest's normal reponse to criticize him for that if he were real. why dont you give me proof that god is good? or lets take a step back- prove god is real! i cant prove he is not real by just using logic and how most of the things he does don't make sense. '''God is real in the same way the wind is real - you can't see Him, but you can feel His effects on the world. And in the same way, someone who doesn't believe in wind could just go "Nope, trees only move like that because they're alive. Wind doesn't exist." in the same way people try and disprove God. Someone who truly doesn't want to believe will come up with ANY explanation they can as an excuse.'''

2. i dont get the "jesus died on the cross so we can all go to heaven" can you please explain it to me? it is kind of interesting... and plus, wouldnt you go to purgatory instead? '''*sigh*... God cannot abide by sin, it's against His perfect nature. If sin made it into Heaven, it wouldn't exactly be perfect, would it? Jesus died on the cross, intending to take that sin away from us, put it onto His body, so that it would die with Him. We can still place that sin on His dead body, but that is an active CHOICE. He will not TAKE that sin from you. You have to GIVE it to Him.'''

i actually think the fairty tale -cough- RELIGION is pretty cool (if that sarcastic joke was rude pls let me know i will stop). but you call athiests illogical and not wanting to admit they are wrong. When '''have I called atheists illogical as a blanket statement? I've said that A LOT of them twist facts out of the Bible, yes, but not all of them. Addfire doesn't, for example.'''

if i was a triggered athiest would get mad so be careful calling athiests that because a lot of them are ignorant i can admit that. '''That's why I haven't, and if people get offended by what I've said, they've obviously misinterpreted my words. Or they just can't accept the truth - a lot of atheists DO twist facts from the Bible. A lot of Christians do as well! It's a simple fact, not meant to offend.'''

and i know youre not a triggered religious nutbag either, so thats good. many christians actually find it FUNNY that athiests make fun of them, like dark humor. same with vice versa '''See, Anons, you were actually being rather disrespectful. Just because other Christians may find it funny does not mean I will.'''

3. you missed my point- hes all powerful so he could find out some way to intervene BUT we still learn from our mistakes. you are underestimating the true power of your god. it might seem "not as.. uh whats that word... natural??" to do that, but if it causes the least pain and suffering, screw naturality. '''Anons, no matter how I think of God, I will ALWAYS be underestimating Him. That's the whole deal with literally infinite power - I CANNOT imagine just how powerful He is. And as I said before, I don't know why He does what He does, but I know He does it for a good reason. Perhaps to help us learn, because we learn a lot through suffering, through the hard way. I believe He doesn't intervene because He wants people to ASK for Him to, because otherwise you KNOW a lot of humans would get all offended and go "hey we didn't ask for this phuck off etc".'''

4. well he clearly has not changed them to fit in with what he "wants" , because the laws of physics that we know and study today are shattered by god. '''That we KNOW and STUDY today. As I said earlier - God might not be breaking physics after all, since no good scientist would say we know everything about those physics. People try to disprove God by explaining away His acts with science, but that doesn't exactly disprove Him, since... well, tracing everything back, where did those physics come from?'''

laws of physics aren't "laws of physics with the exception of omnipotent beings" it's "the only things that CAN happen, period." are you saying that our laws of physics are wrong, or that they are right with the excpetion of god btw? '''I'm not saying anything on the subject, simply voicing my beliefs. I will not pass those beliefs off as fact, which is why I almost always say "I believe...".'''

5. im not passing it as a fact. think of it logically here-  1. what seems like logical sense to an average brain that its not worth it or 2. some guy's plan that no one understands '''So you're saying that 1. The average brain is what we should all follow and 2. If we don't understand a plan then it's a bad plan?'''

'''Also, God is not just "some guy", because He is literally perfect. He has the bigger picture. He can see EVERYTHING, not just the things our piddly little human eyes can see.'''