Talk:Juggernaut/@comment-33037277-20170905160113

If  Pestilence  and a fully powered up  Juggernaut  attack each other, everyone alive will get the notification, "An unstoppable force meets an invincible object. The ground beneath your feet shudders." The  Juggernaut  will still die though due to their defense being insignificant against a Powerful attack. These two statements contradict each other. Can anyone confirm if you need to be alive to get the achievement?
 * Getting this notification will give you an achievement. This only works if you are currently alive.
 * you can get the achivement unstoppable force vs. immovable object for just being in the same game as this

