Thread:MemeDaddy1233/@comment-27398195-20180525054855/@comment-34797858-20180526042412

HAWAIIANpikachu wrote: I just said to add a replay feature, not to rework the trial system, but regardless, giving others a option to look at others POV would help others make their judgements better, which is what the trial system should have. That would be reworking the trial system, as you are working on the trial system again, which is what reworking means. However, this would not be needed as you don't need to see from a user's POV if you didn't have a role which becomes someone else. Therefore we do not need to rework the trial system.

Doesn't nerf forger.

Yes it does. If we have multiple roles that do similar abilities, one is obviously going to be a nerfed version as it is weaker.

'''Except that Forger is still reliable even with Janitor if used correctly, clearing other Mafia members off suspicion and placing it on others. I don't see how changing Disguiser would make Forger shit.'''

Yes, forger can be good, but it is still weak. It requires consigliere to be good, and yes every role requires consigliere to be better, but even then it still sucks. Janitor just has to click a button and boom, no problems, forger has to create a good will in about 30 seconds. The forger CAN write the will at day to make it better but then it has to stop watching the game which can doom it anyways. That would be reworking the trial system, as you are working on the trial system again, which is what reworking means. However, this would not be needed as you don't need to see from a user's POV if you didn't have a role which becomes someone else. Therefore we do not need to rework the trial system.

'''But this is a solution to the Disguiser issue if it was brought back to its roots. I do get your point though, this is only nessary if disg was brought back to its root.'''

Yes it does. If we have multiple roles that do similar abilities, one is obviously going to be a nerfed version as it is weaker.​​​​​​​

Well shit, then Pirate is nefred Jailor, Poisoner, Vigilante and VH is nerfed mafioso, CL w necro is buffed SK, Witch is nerfed Cl, Medusa is nefred Vet, etc etc etc.

You see how your logic can be applied to other roles aswell.

Yes, forger can be good, but it is still weak. It requires consigliere to be good, and yes every role requires consigliere to be better, but even then it still sucks. Janitor just has to click a button and boom, no problems, forger has to create a good will in about 30 seconds. The forger CAN write the will at day to make it better but then it has to stop watching the game which can doom it anyways.

​​​​​​​See above.