Board Thread:Role Ideas (Rework)/@comment-28092296-20181103224347/@comment-37421692-20181116003325

DragonClaw66 wrote: NapstablookInfinity wrote: DragonClaw66 wrote:

ImKurama wrote: DragonClaw66 wrote: I would rather remove the transportation notification; easy self-confirmability in Town roles shouldn't exist.Don't randomize them; that makes it even worse. Maybe just make it fail?

Let it keep its roleblock immunity if my first suggestion stays. ,, All roles, , ,.

U Wot M8? The Jailor, Mayor, and Retributionist are all broken roles and most people know this; they should be moved to the Town Power alignment that contains powerful self-confirmable roles. Town Protective roles deserve confirmability if they successfully protect a target (only the Doctor gets it on most occassions, though). The Medium... yeah, I can't argue with that one. Escorts normally get confirmed if they roleblock someone and a Spy says that the Mafia didn't visit that person, but a lot of people know that I despise the Spy because of how powerful it is. Spy... powerful? Wot??? Here is what the Spy does: - Confirms all players seen by a Lookout and not seen in the Mafia or Coven list. fine but it doesn't confirm people as not being Arso, does it? - Confirms all visited players as non-Mafia or non-Coven. '''Why the Neutral Faction is there. Also, Transporter/Witch/PM can really fuck up the results.''' - Confirms Escorts.ok - Denies Hypnotists a Doctor, Crusader, Trapper, or Escort, Transporter claim. not really, since multiple ppl can visit one person. - Denies Consorts an Escort claim. they can claim others - Allows the Spy to use an outed Disguiser to determine a player's role. ok but not in every case - Denies successful forges. not really - Denies successful frames. yes this needs a fix I agree - Reveals when a Mafia or Coven member was jailed or roleblocked successfully. this is probably one of the least trustworthy info, as a mafia/coven member might decide to not visit one night or try to mislead the spy. - Reveals players who are hexed. it does not, they could've been visited by PM too. - Prevents fake blackmail or poison claims. which are bad claims anyway - Outs attacked Neutral Killings, Godfathers, or Coven Leaders '''yes but this is one of the only real useful parts other than "semi-confirming town". Also, the RM rarely ever random visit.'''(with the Necronomicon). - The bug, while weak, provides additional utility... yes, all things listed above are benefits from the faction-seeing ability only.