Board Thread:Role Ideas (Neutral)/@comment-192.30.95.29-20190111195831/@comment-2601:249:702:77EC:AD64:A2F5:EFD7:4FA1-20190113184637

Pokechurin wrote: 47.196.114.183 wrote: 192.30.95.29 wrote: Dealer ok

'''Description: A mystic whose future is to find anothers’ future actions. '''ok?

Alignment: Neutral Benign right on

'''Game Information: Any, RN, NB, Dealer. ok Attack: None''' sick Defense: None oki Unique: No mmkay

'''Abilities: Select one person to warn of visitors at night. uh oh Attributes: Your target will know who visits them, if you were the only one to visit your target, the target will only know of your name visiting them. You can be roleblocked. '''this is a reverse lookout then? it tells people who visits them but you dont know who did actually? '''Sheriff results will show: “You cannot find evidence of wrongdoing. Your target seems innocent.” '''ok

Investigator results will show: “Your target could be a Medium, Janitor, Scavenger, Retributionist, Necromancer, Dealer, or Trapper.” "Works with bodies," this role does not. It'd more likely fit in with the Psychic results, and as a huge stretech, the Tracker results. Also, SEVEN INVESTIGATION RESULTS IS A NO GO.

'''Consigliere results will show: “Your target predicts the future for others. They must be a Dealer.” '''bland and boring Goal: Survive until the end of the game. no '''Victory Conditions: Wins with Town, Survivor, Pirate, Guardian Angel, Amnesiac, Executioner, Jester, Mafia, Arsonist, Serial Killer, Werewolf, Plaguebearer/Pestilence, Juggernaut, Witch/Coven, Seeker, Double-Crosser, Bandit, Dealer, and Vampires. Must kill no one. '''whatever. i'll explain what the problem is soon

'''Side Notes: This role is meant to be useful for town as Mediums have very slight influence in finding potential killing roles. This can be used for the Mafia to find any Town Investigative that has not came out of ‘incognito’. The person you select will be notified of any visitors that visits your target. You will not get the results, but you will get that someone has visited your target. “Your target has been visited!” There will be multiple messages based off on how many people visits your target. Nothing will pop up if no one visits your target. The target will not be notified when they are visited by the Dealer. The target will see the Dealer’s name when they visit the target. If you are to die, you will not be able to win the game. FANDOM: “I predict a bitter end, as your life flashes before you could even inhale the flames around you.” The Dealer told an unsuspecting Mayor. While the town has already tried taking her out, for falsely making fake futures. The belief is all she says will result in positive outcomes. But for this Mayor, his end will be while he’s sleeping, set ablaze to engulf him whole. The Mayor grew spectacle of the Dealers’ intent and warned the mystic, “If nothing happens tomorrow, I will get you voted.” The Dealer took a nod, knowing his fate will be ended; the day after, all the townies went out of their homes, to see who has met their fate. The Sheriff called the role call, and then continued to deliver the death blows. “We have met an unfortunate fate blow, as our very own Town Mayor has been killed, his house burned ashes into the ground.” The Dealer was right, and now she controls what people do, ‘be careful of what you wish for.’'''

'''TRIVIA: The Dealer is a cameo to the dealer in “Hand of Fate”, as the other players are the ones’ selecting their ‘fate’. If you warn a Mayor on the same day they are attacked you will receive the “Trust Issues” achievement. If you warn the Veteran while he is on alert you will receive the “You Warned Yourself” achievement. The Dealer can be easily referenced as a reversed Lookout. This is more of a role that'll support the 'winning' side, thus it's victory conditions is very high. '''you acknowledge it is a reverse lookout. this hurts.

DM me over Discord with Creation#8624 for any topics about the roles you've seen of my work, any questions about specifics, etc etc.

Also, some roles you may of not have seen, mostly because not all roles have been released (they're not completely finished), or they're just in the forums. You can find the other roles I've posted below.

[//town-of-salem.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:348991 http://town-of-salem.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:348991]

[//town-of-salem.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:349041 http://town-of-salem.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:349041]

[//town-of-salem.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:349135 http://town-of-salem.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:349135]

[//town-of-salem.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:349242 http://town-of-salem.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:349242] Right, lets go over what the hell is wrong with this garbage. Below is a list of rules you've broken with this role. To start, you acknowledge it could be considered a reverse lookout. And guess what? NEUTRAL INVESTIGATIVE ROLES AIN'T ALLOWED. Like seriously, you get notified if your target is visited, and you literally tell your target who visited them. That is overpowered and not allowed. Also, your role is rehashing roles. Big no-no. Work on your roles more. This is trash. Dude, this is the kind of response we don't want to see on this wiki. He made a contribution, you should accept it instead of being a stuck-up jerk who only wants to criticize with no context or explanation. Be more kind about it and EXPLAIN why Rehashes, Survivor Rehashes, and Neutral Investigatives aren't good. You didn't actually explain WHY these type of roles don't work, you just said "it doesn't follow the rules". So stop being rude and give some ample criticism. Oh, and if it's really that bad, tell him what he should do next time instead of saying his ideas are garbage with no context. At least be kind about it.
 * Re-hashes - Mafia/Neutral/Coven versions of Town roles or vice-versa.
 * Survivor Rehash - Any Neutral Benign role whose only goal is to survive to the end of the game.
 * Neutral Investigative - Any Neutral role that investigates people.

Also, the rule list can be flawed as well. Don't reject and call something garbage just because it doesn't follow a rule, explain why the rules matter and why the role doesn't work in a real game, on how it's broken, etc.

The only garbage thing I can find on this thread is this response, because at least he's contributing and trying to help the community.

Sorry about that, Creation. Oi, I apperciate this, thank you. Honestly I haven't really got anyone that'd actually enjoy some conecpts of the role itself (Mostly just the background behind it), I just wanted to share with people. And I'd personally love to talk about how I could fix it. I got bored and because I never actually shared my expansion list with anyone, I just wanted to see how some of my roles faired out. I'd love to DM you over Discord if you'd have one, just to see about how I can fix some of them. ​​​​​​​Creation#8624

Also, I'll be responding to try and resolve some of these issues I've had with my roles, soooo bare with me !