Board Thread:Role Ideas (Mafia)/@comment-38593192-20200219083045/@comment-38593192-20200219231252

DesertStorm11 wrote: Whoever has a painting with them will share the Painter's invest result, and will be prevented from interacting with the dead/Roles that target the dead(Ex: Medium and Retributionist)(Such as Talking and being Revived) and their role is replaced by the role Painter when they die So it has a framing ability. THAT IS COMPLETELY BROKEN. 0.o A framing ability that only affects one TI Preventing people from speaking in dead chat is a no-no. There is no way to get around that. I'm not sure how that ability really fits with paintings either. Lore wise they basically cannot speak as they had to keep quiet and admire the painting.I also added that in since it might heavily counter the Painter by having a Medium since you could determine the Painter easily through quick chats unless you want that to be a thing, The target may remove this debuff by simply being visited or visiting, however the visited/visitor will recieve the painting "effect" and shares all it's debuffs,It can only spread up to 2 times in total per painting So the painting can spread around... do you paint the person or paint a painting? That's more lore-wise but I'm curious. This is a cool mechanic, but doesn't help you unless you know where the paint is. You lose control as soon as it moves.

You will know who has a painting by the end of the night.The target and their target/visitors will also know if they have a painting at the end of the night however they will not know if the painting has been successfully removed/passed on from them Nevermind about that, they know if they have the painting. However, now you automatically know who you visited if you were controlled or your target was transported, and they basically know if they were framed, but they don't know for SURE that they were. That's up to three people that could be unsure about whether or not they had a painting and were framed. That's really powerful. That's how mafia works

Those who have a painting after the real Painter's death are forever affected by the painting,and cannot be spread any longer Gonna have to say no to this for sure.K,just I removed it, if you wanted to know ehy i included is that incase the Painter somehow dies N1,they could atleast provide a bit more deceptions for atleast 2-3 nights

This is a Disguiser remake, but it frames other people and essentially cleans them, and no one actually knows where it is. That's a huge problem, and it's overpowered. Gonna have to reject it. You may have overestimated it's actual power,it's not as powerful as a clean ,it's not as powerful as a roleblock,it's not as powerful as a kill, remember that they still would need to die so if you can't follow that up with something then there isn't much you can do either than wait for a Investigator,You could also choose to ignore it for the first couple of rounds since there are plenty of Mafia by then,the point of this role is to provide as many claim space as possible,since the Town will need to assess if that was actually a Town member or a Mafia.