Board Thread:Role Ideas (Rework)/@comment-33167183-20180719162754/@comment-31680260-20180725080617

Orecreeper wrote: This role was created because there pretty much HAS to be a role like Surv in a game like ToS.

But I agree that this role is sh*t and should be removed. '''I disagree. Let's dance.'''

Here's why:

1. Kingmaking may be fun but whoever you choose to lose will pretty much hate you for the rest of your life and prolly backstab you the next time you play together which is usually the next game if you play b2b. That's based on the player, not the role, and can easily be averted by using a different name.

2.  Boring. Do I need to explain this? '''Fun is subjective. I have a lot of fun as Survivor. This point is invalid.'''

3. The lack of creativity in this role is the worst I've seen in ToS so far. '''By all means I challenge you to come up with a creative role that works. Harder than it looks. And Survivor is hardly the least creative role in the game. Serial Killer literally just kills. That's all it does, and yet it's my favourite role to play. Escort and Consort are carbon-copies of each other.'''

4. Fucking stop those shitty d1 survivor claims from practically everyone in the town in All Any. It's terrible and you end out with 10 people claiming survivor. '''In All Any I've never seen more than three people claim Survivor (two of which were actually Survivor, the other one was Jester). I myself claim Survivor with a lot of evil roles, and win quite often when I do. What's shitty about that?'''

5. It's fucking easy to win if you manage to separate yourself from the jerks who fake claim surv. And most people leave surv claims alone anyway as most claiming it are night immune roles. You just vest the few nights inbetween and you're set. '''It's easy to win as Town in Ranked. Therefore, Town should be removed, no?'''