Board Thread:Role Ideas (Town)/@comment-38045493-20190202130005/@comment-50.37.85.112-20190206044341

Rasengan66 wrote: Spy is OP, my suggestion is to make it so it knows what happens to it's bugged target at night (and no seeing mv). I'm debating between this and making it just see the roles that visit. That makes it have the same purpose, but less omniscient.

Investigator can be nerfed by making better results.

Osservatore, as in, Mafia LO, right? I've seen that idea. I like it, why not?

My Psychic suggestion lets it scry an investigative result and learn the name of someone who's in that result, but it can only scry a result twice.

Jeez I keep advertising this everywhere.

Here's the thread with them all: Thread:350658 TBH, I do not like this Spy idea.

Reason:

A Consigliere or a Consort are 2 roles that can have VERY good claims. If a Spy were to bug the Jailor and then have it say "A Consort visited your target! A Bodyguard visited your target! A Lookout visited your target! An Arsonist visited your target!" it's just a trapper that has no attack and can trap every night. I think it should only say certain things such as:

Someone interrigated your target! (Sheriff, Investigator, Consigliere, Potion Master [revealing])

Someone roleblocked your target! (Escort, Consort, no longer can see if they are immune or not)

Someone protected your target! (Crusader, Bodyguard, Trapper)

Someone prevented your target from harm! (Guardian Angel, Doctor, Potion Master [healing])

Someone poisoned your target! (Poisoner)

Someone attacked your target! (Godfather, Werewolf, Serial Killer, Veteran, Vigilante, Mafioso, Vampire Hunter, Vampire, Ambusher, Crusader, Bodyguard, Trapper, Arsonist, Pestilence; Horseman of the Apocalypse, Juggernaut, Coven Leader, Potion Master [killing], Hex Master, Necromancer's Ghoul [or Necromancer's killing corpse], Medusa, or Poisoner [when they died to poison]

Your target was attacked but something saved them from being killed! (If they are attacked but protected by any Town Protective, Potion Master, Guardian Angel, or if they are a Veteran, Bodyguard, Doctor, or Survivor self "healing", or any role with defense.

Someone cured your target from poison! (Doctor, Potion Master, Guardian Angel, Poisoner)

Someone messed with your target! (Transporter, Coven Leader/Witch, Framer, Hex Master, Arsonist)

etc.

Overall, I just don't see why roles visiting would work for a Spy.