Board Thread:Debate of The Week/@comment-28112409-20180228113931/@comment-31680260-20180308060436

Nixonix wrote: I'm gonna say Ambusher sucks more. Then your fate is sealed. First of all,

1. Ambusher is instantly revealed to any evil role which happens to visit their target. If they get lynched, the ambusher will be moreso revealed. '''To any evil role? First off, if you're entering a debate then you need all the facts - Ambusher is revealed to everyone. Crusader still sucks more, though, because at least Ambusher doesn't kill its own faction members.'''

2. Ambusher is only useful to remove TPs and TIs. Sure, it can remove a Vampire or Pirate, but who else can it kill? Oh yeah, Transporter. '''Crusader is only useful for removing any evil role that doesn't have defense - and there are quite a few. Once again, though, even if you DO protect someone an evil role visits, there's a good chance you'll just attack a random Townie instead.'''

3. Mediums can seance a confirmed Townie or the Mayor, revealing you to the Town, from the person who got ambushed. '''That's still only one Mafia down. That may be 25% of the Mafia, but at least Mafia know who they are - Crusader just kills randomly, not even knowing if it's attacking a teammate.'''

4. Ambusher was ONCE immune to role blocks. Why did BMG harshly nerf it to its current state? Now it is not immune and it just sucks to play. '''Crusader ONCE didn't exist. Why did BMG harshly nerf Town by making it a thing?'''

5. The Ambusher usually gets 1 or 2 kills in a game before being promoted to a Mafioso, or he will never get a kill nor be promoted to Mafioso. In other words, it is useless. '''Crusader usually kills 1 or 2 Townies before it dies, and it's never promoted to anything at all. In other words, it's worse than useless.'''

6. Crustaiders kill Ambushers, so will Ambusher kill Crusader, if they go on the same target. Easy loss of 25% of the mafia. '''Actually, the Ambusher has higher priority than the Crusader does. 1 vs 3. The Ambusher would kill the Crusader first. And even if that didn't affect who kills whom, Amby and Crus would have an equal chance of hitting each other. So at BEST, this point is pointless, and at worst, it hurts your argument.'''

Sorry Jally, but this is purely my opinion. It will not change till they change the Ambusher. '''You aren't sorry. But you will be, when you realize you chose the wrong side in this argument, my friend.'''