Board Thread:Role Ideas (Rework)/@comment-33167183-20181022215610/@comment-33459116-20181024130708

Betimawesome wrote: 1: nerf. I've been told time and time again that "The 's advantage over the is decieving the ."...So why on earth does  frame their target? It's a role that LITERALLY kills everyone who isn't on their team in a matter of ~4 nights, i've seen earlier more than once before. Get rid of the Frame ability.

I usually play with idiots so HM early kills are unlikely

2: buff. Unlike and,  doesn't get to use their ability when roleblocked. Send

"s biggest disadvantage should be time" - BMG. So can't we make douse roleblockers? Send

3: All Buff. Playing as a in  Ranked Practice is a nightmare. There's a 1/11 chance you'll be found night one. That may not seem like a lot, but it is. And once you are, you become the 's personal little puppet. If you're a, She can make you suicide. If you're a or, you'll be used to get kills night 4+. But if it is Night One, you'll be spared the mercy at. If it's later than night three, You're a slave and you have no chance of winning unless the or  during the day spare you. Yeah, Just make all control immune.

SEND

4: buff. 's biggest issue is that it only affects Two roles. Let's do this. and will see your target as the  who attacks. can view your target is an evil role in their vision, and can not see visiting. Let's also make it where Frames are perma, but can only be done four times. And Finally, Because of and, let's make framer unique.

Send but remove the perma frames and unique

5: . Okay. So every suggestion I hear involves "Making it pre 1.5" which wasn't good, like, at all. Involves making it OP, or involves it making disguises perma, which isn't bad, but it doesn't change the fact that it REQUIRES YOU TO BE DEAD, which takes a number's disadvantage. For a faction like, you need all the numbers with that 1 KPN. Remove, and give Forgeless , and cleanless the ability to disguise.

Yeah just get rid of disguiser SEND

6: : Everyone knows the name reveal is shit. Make it: If theres >1 visitor, the won't attack and no one knows name. If theres only 1, he attacks and no one knows name. I wish they would just remove it

7: Sons of absolute harlots. I hate this faction so much. Unpopular opinion, I know. Just allow to find, that'd make it so much better. I mean, can find them as the Framed/Jest/Framer line, so why not ? People are begging for a buff anyway.

Lol Send

8: : Allows to reanimate that always uses Attack potion. Allows to reanimate to use final hex, instead of just frame (which should be gone) Allows to reanimate  without dying (I never understood that...) These three changes would improve the role significantly.

^^^^Send

9: {{Poison- MAN! make poison silent (no message) rather than make it uncurable. To offset this, perhaps make it do Powerful Attack too?

Lmao you failed, but I like it the way it is

10: Medusa Make it have Basic attack when visiting with the necronomicon. It should have no reason to be able kill NK/GF/PB/Vester while visiting.

Nahh

11: Pestilence. Okay. Either get rid of the message that comes with transformation, OR give him unstoppable attack. I'm so tired of being lynched as soon as I become pest, and hitting jailed/healed/crusadered targets EVERY SINGLE TIME except for two times. And i'm sure a lot of other people have the same fate as me '''​​​​​​​Well as a Pestilence expert, I would say you might not be good??? I manage to win any game I have as PB by staying quiet but not too quiet to the point where I'm sus. Give your info and be the second-to-last vote on trials, and guilty if that's what majority is going with. Also stay calm when you get pestilence and deflect blame off yourselves to people who haven't claimed/aren't confirmed or are considered sus. Jailor/Doc/Crus would have already been revealed at this point and they're easy pickings.'''