Board Thread:Role Ideas (Mafia)/@comment-37322933-20190811225906/@comment-31256456-20190816004443

Rasengan66 wrote: PMer is a really cool idea, but it's only a Coven role, so I wanna basically adapt it to Vanilla Ranked.

Yeah, that's it, name can and should be changed, but I don't care.

Soooooo

=--= (I don't know to do the line thing someone teach me please it'd be really useful)

Choose a player to target and a potion to use at night.

You have 3 potions.

Iron Skin: Will increase the target's defense to Basic. (or maybe Powerful)

'''This is an interesting ability that gives Mafia the ability to prevent Vigilante hits. However, I do have some questions on how effective this potion might be and if this will offer enough utility. In Coven, many roles use killing as a method (Crusader is added along with Trapper), however, the only real threat this can nullify is probably the Vigilante. This could be used to validate yourself however. If this were changed to Powerful defence (which I am tentatively agreeing with), we could see more use out of this ability, perhaps from Veteran, etc.'''

Strength: Will cause your target to ignore defensive roles.

'''This can help against a stale Jailor meta and would be an interesting change of pace in the meta. Not a bad idea and could be useful. '''

Illusion:  Will cause target to appear to be visiting you instead of their actual target to any roles that see visits (LO, Tracker, Spy). Each of your potions has a two night cooldown before they can be used again.

'''​​​​​​​Illusion is quite unique and useful, and I cannot find many flaws with this part of the role either. However, although I am tentative in calling this a hard-counter, it does seem like the applications of this role are mainly restricted to two main roles, which might not be present in the game. Some modification might be needed.'''

=--= Iron Skin is to give Mafia a healing friend if they need it

Strength lets Mafia get past TP if that's what they wanna do

Illusion can trick LO and Tracker and Spy and that's cool. And it can make PMer look like non-member of Mafia to Spy, so that's pretty lit. Summary; A versatile role that can use a variety of potions to bypass Mafia weaknesses.

Suggestions:

-Possibly change Illusion to have more application to trick TI, as we all know what happened with Framer lol

-Add some lore, though the name doesn't really matter, I guess you could add one

Scale: I would scale this role about a 7/10. This means that the role is well on its way to becoming well balanced and needs just a few tweaks before it could be added to the game in my humble opinion. It sounds very unique and interesting and varied. Remember that a 1 doesn't mean that the role is awful, nor does a 10 mean that the role is good, it's just my scale of where I think the role is at in terms of how complete the role is in terms of being able to be suggested to BMG