Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-28112409-20170924144238/@comment-26234016-20170924165505

My two cents are included:

Vertroyer wrote: Yes, this deserves a highlight as it is of utter importance.

I love this wiki, many others do. Its a great place where fans of the game congregate together and have fun discussing, suggesting ideas and enjoying themselves. That's not what it is now, its what it used to be.

Cutting the deep, edgy crap and straight to the point. This wiki had a time most would call "The golden age". Way back when Bobby was an active moderator, the wiki was much better than the semi-hellhole it is now.

'''That was also when URN999 was around, I wasn't moderator, Zed wasn't around... Everything looks better in hindsight, those days weren't all that great themselves...'''

ToTM was actually of value, not just another bottle cap on the chest. The reward was more symbolizing of something.

'''Of what? Are you saying current winners aren't worthy? Because I strongly beg to differ.'''

ToS related things were roaming around the wiki a lot more, people were doing game-related stuff here. The wiki still provides info and space for new suggestions and ideas, which is great ay? But now its in a depressing state. Unnecessary shenanigans and waste of time wasn't a thing back then.

'''You say unnecessary shenanigans, I say fun and relaxing pastimes. Of course the Describe the Above User's Avatar games don't need to exist, but they don't harm the wiki, so what's the problem?'''

It is terrible for me to open the wiki activity at occasions, and instead of seeing a role idea, a helpful edit, a story of someone's ToS match, or even a normal discussion about the game and its roles, what do I get? RPs,

'''We've tried to move that to the DRRP wiki, but are the HoS roleplays all that bad? '''

shitposting,

'''Like what? Do you mean trashy role ideas, or...? '''

petty drama sometimes,

'''Everything goes through drama, that's just a thing that happens. Most people on this wiki are young teens and adults, high on hormones. Of course there's going to be drama. You can't escape that.'''

why?

I hate this, I genuinely do. Ok, few nice games here and there, but that has really been flooded. I'm not here to blame any people, I'm here to condemn wrong actions.

Oh, and what about edit racking? Its honestly ridiculous to see people empower it so much. Someone edit racks and you'd have pitchforks behind their back. Stop making such a big deal out of it. If someone edit racks, let them have it. Just look down on them, frown on their actions, don't give their achievement importance, ignore it. The number of edits you have are of no value whatsoever, its just that there's exaggeration mixed in this potion.

'''I get what you're trying to say here and agree with it, but this paragraph actually fuels the problem, if anything. We should be cutting down on both edit rackers and those who condemn it, though, so yeah I won't argue here.'''

What I want, is for RPs, time-wasting shitposts, other non-ToS related things, other space wasting things to go somewhere else. Somewhere better suited for them. Got a ToS RP? Do it on Discord, an RP wiki or go to the Discussions, not this wiki. Wanna shitpost? Do it somewhere else not on the wiki or even better, don't do it at all. See someone edit racking? Turn your head around and don't give him the power or attention he wants. Wanna have a game that ain't ToS related? This is not the place for it.

I want the wiki to be fixed, and I need people to listen. I want the wiki to be as good as it was like before, I don't want RPs and other "fun" stuff being the fuel that runs this place. I want ToS and its fans to run it the right way.

Please move your RPs, your unnecessary things, whatever else, just get it off the wiki, make it a better place.

Make it great again, and I'd appreciate if you would listen and just do what you can. Yeah that's just what I think.

It's an important thing to discuss, I just (for the most part) disagree with you.

Nostalgia is a dangerous thing.