Board Thread:Role Ideas (Town)/@comment-98.116.89.145-20171110125534/@comment-32881402-20171110171410

@Karp Shittiest review award has to go to you. Care to tell us why those are bad? They might not know what a hardcounter is, or why confirmable roles tend to be bad. If everyone followed the thread, there would be 0 roles to review, since there would be 0 roles posted. Every new role is bound to ignore some of the thread, but they might still be a good role. I reiterate: don't go around giving half-assed reviews and rejecting them. You don't have the final verdict and hence you can't reject a role. I'm not about to rant about that, but if you disagree, be sure to reply to my blog about it (I'm on mobile So I won't link it).

Hearing whispers defeats the point of having whispers. Scum won't whisper to eachother because of this risk of someone hearing. Whisper feedback already makes whispering pretty risky, and a role that can hear whispers would eliminate whispers altogether.

Whispering to the Mayor was also removed because of whisper games. It can just gather all claims and gamesolve really easily. Since Mayor is so confirmable with revealing, it is easily the most trust worthy. Whisper games prevent actual feedback and just lead to easy Town wins, with hanging all of the similar claims. Not claiming will lead to you being hung. This gives back anonymous communication to the Mayor, though this role.

Knowing who the blackmailed person is and being able to set up communication with them makes the Blackmailer useless. It used to be able to prevent communication, but now it's useless. They have confirmed 1 nonmafia because they are confirmed to be blackmailed (Mafia can't visit eachother), reducing claim space for scum.

With selfconfirming, or confirmable, roles like the communicator, it reduces claim space for scum massively as well as preventing a mislynch. Town will be much more likely to hang scum because scum can claim less and there is less unknown town to hang. Since the role can hear whispers and set up unusual communication, it confirms itself. Even if the chat is anonymous, they can say their name to confirm themselves.