Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-31256456-20190830060531/@comment-25615841-20190902164530

Vertroyer wrote: RubikJohn wrote:

'''fandom: the state or condition of being a fan of someone or something. I see this site as a place for information, but secondarily a hangout for fans. sure, discord or reddit may be better places for this, but that doesn't mean we can't leave this place open.'''

'''Interacting with others really doesn't bring you closer together? Something even as small as discussing dumb shit or memes? Does this mean that every casual friendship lacks any sort of bond?'''

'''I stated the purpose. Can you now reason why they hinder you at all, or is the only argument here that they have no purpose? If there's a debateable purpose, and zero downside besides flooding the RWA page which nobody is forcing you to use, isn't it better to keep them?'''

'''You really can't use the forum? You can choose a specific board, filtering out all shitposts, and you've even been given extra filters to locate any thread based on age or date of last reply. Even without off-topic posts, you're still gonna have to pay attention to what you're opening on RWA. It really isn't that much harder to just select a different option on the drop-down menu.''' Home page for Fandom: https://www.fandom.com/exploreNowhere does it say it's a lounge or chatroom for whatever shitposting one can excrete, it's specifically "A place where fans can discuss, find, and share knowledge on any topic." It doesn't address these websites as fandoms, it still addresses them as wikis and you can still see that part clearly written after a / on the address at the top of the page. There is a clear focus defined there, not just allowing whatever meandering to take place just because users feel like it.

Right.. as I said, the main purpose of Wikia is to provide wikis that clearly and efficiently display information, meaning that any directory or page about the website is going to mainly include this. But can you deny that the creators of FANDOM were not at least partially aiming for a place in which fans of Salem, in this case, can meet up and discuss topics, or simply just hang out considering the existence of blog posts and live!chat? These aren't completely formal -- there's no such thing on Wikipedia.

Also noteworthy that the explore page doesn't actually hold any information, about anything - not even stating that the purpose of a wiki is to contain info.

Interactions for the sake of interactions mean nothing in a social context. I can say hi to a person every time I see them but that will never go anywhere unless either of us makes an active effort to form a friendship or a bond, which is still far better done in discord because it's in the form of a chat instead of comments and posts, is more convenient to traverse and check for, contains a voice chat, and is much more flexible for social use.. You cannot seriously look at the sort of shitposts they make and tell me it's anything beyond shallow.

You can make an active effort to form a friendship through simply spending time with people, even meming. I know people at school, for example, who I consider friends -- or acquaintances even though our interactions are mostly, or sometimes exclusively pretty light/casual ones. Again, not denying that online a voice chat, or even a platform like Reddit or Discord is better for this.

No, the shitposts do not have any purpose as they are greatly overshadowed by every other form of media. They hinder everyone who is trying to quickly check for the relevant topics and updates on them, not just me, stop centralizing it around me ya twat. Your stated purpose has virtually no support or basis behind it, just heresay and weightless words. Don't try exempting the RWA being clogged from being a downside, because it definitely is. Don't cherrypick what does and doesn't count as a disadvantage for the sake of appeasing your side. You tell me Rubik, why isn't it better to make checking for relevant threads created a lot easier rather than individually checking every single board, page, and message wall for it?

Sure! It's excellent to make things easier for those navigating the wiki, but if there's a clear better option, exactly how much of a difference does RWA make? Because I think the answer is none. Both the Forum boards and the ctrl+f commands, along with actual filters are all options for finding a specific type of content. RWA is by nature excellent for displaying all content together, but that's not exactly what we're debating here, is it?

Like I said previously, you're just making it a time sink for everyone trying to check for recent activity. You even previously argued with me on the convenience of instant invites in our discord server because it practically had no downsides and saves even the slightest amount of time instead of constantly asking an admin or the owner for it, so why the sudden double standards now?

Everyone trying to check for recent activity is looking for general posts (or they don't know of the better options).

You have previously argued with me on the convience of combining moderator flairs and permissions into one for the sake of clarity for everyone. If I recall correctly, you mentioned that there's no point because the bonus is insignificant. The bonus in removing shitposts entirely is an insignificant bonus if you can simply filter another way.