Board Thread:Role Ideas (Rework)/@comment-2001:E68:544C:7613:49A5:AA8E:6200:F2E5-20180419091405/@comment-33927649-20180419102424

2001:E68:544C:7613:49A5:AA8E:6200:F2E5 wrote: I don't know if this idea has been stated before, I think the first person Framer framed should appear to be Framer upon dying. Hmmm, that's mildly OP is my first thought Scenario: X&Y were not Mafia. X was framed on N1. X died. X's role was Framer. Y was framed on N2. Y died. Y's role was (the original role). Nobody knows X's original role including Framer.

How is this a Buff?

1) More claimspace for Mafia. Although a bit less effective compared to Janitor who knows their target role upon dying, Mafia can still manage to get away with RT claim.

2) People wouldn't discredit Framer's Last Will right away or they would just completely ignore Framer's Last Will (If people choose to trust their last will, they could have been fooled by the fake one. If they don't trust any last will by Framer, the framed target's last will would have gone wasted)

3) Appear to be a confirmed Town upon lynching the target you called out. Still a pretty risky move and can cause backfire.

BTW, should framer become Unique role? I mean spy could still counter framer, but I'm not sure. This just turns it into a reverse disguuser

The issue with this is that whenever a framer dies the town will probably end up ignoring it, and even if they don't, it shouldn't take that much to spot a fake.

I'll probably say more later, but this is what I have right now