Board Thread:Role Ideas (Rework)/@comment-33068359-20170917081131/@comment-31919347-20170917091001

LOLZ1337 wrote: Framer is arguably one of THE most useless mafia roles in my opinion. There are very few instances where a frame is successful and even when it is, it can be easily disproven.

So true.

What if the framer could decide what to frame a target as instead of the usual Framer/Vamp/Jest result, and what if they could "frame" members of the mafia, making them appear as not sus? This also messes up spies and breaks the "mafia cannot visit mafia" rule.

Nice idea!

This is how I would envision it working: Framer gets a GUI similar to the Hypotist's with a list of all the investigative results. You select one and your target will have that investigative result for the night. Additionally beside each result that is NOT detection immune (BG/GF/Arso and Surv/VH/Witch), you have a "suspicious" checkbox (WW for the Sheriff/Exe/WW result and an additional SK for the Doc/Disg/SK result) that the framer can choose to select. If he selects it, then the target will appear as suspicious or as the WW/SK to the sheriff.

Not really an original idea, I've seen this in many variants, but this is probably the best.

Too OP or nah?

No, not to OP. Balanced.

Perfect idea! I hope it will be added.