Board Thread:Role Ideas (Town)/@comment-25375217-20171103004115/@comment-28092296-20171104160003

SpacedefenderX wrote:

DatNuttyKid wrote: (This is probably a horrible idea but I might as well suggest it)

Name: Double Agent

Alignment: Town Support

Game Information: You are a member of the town gaining intelligence from the mafia.

Attack: None

Defense: None

Unique Role: Yes

Priority: 3

Abilities: While hiding out with the mafia, you can frame anyone. Once revealed, you have one bulletproof vest you can use.

Attributes: Framing is identical to the Framer's ability and, while hiding out, you appear as a Framer to the rest of the mafia. You do not see mafia members' names. During the daytime, you can reveal like the Mayor (showing "Y/N has revealed themselves as a double agent!"), removing you from the mafia chat and giving you a bulletproof vest. Starting on Day 4, there is a chance of you being "discovered" (showing "Y/N has been discovered as a double agent!"), which functions the same way but is random So, RNG, nope. Once revealed, you cannot be healed by a doctor or whispered to.

-Investigative Results-


 * Your target is a member of the mafia! (hiding out) / Your target is not suspicious. (revealed)


 * Your target could be a, , , Double Agent, or.

/: Your target is seeking information. They must be a Double Agent!

Goal: Lynch every criminal and evildoer.

Wins With: The Town

Must Kill: Any neutral evil, neutral killing, Mafia, or Coven

I'm tempted to remove the bulletproof vest since kind of the balance of this role is that they put themselves in danger of the mafia. But theoretically, any information they need to get out, they would tell the first day they're revealed, so...

I wasn't sure how to make it so that they can't just go "x, y, and z are Mafia", hence not being able to see names. But then any time you're in the Mafia and you have a Framer on your team, you could just say "hey tell us the rest of the mafia's names" and if they're a Double Agent, they're screwed. You would also be able to select mafia members to frame, which if you did that by accident it would also reveal you.

It would also theoretically be obvious in Ranked Practice or Ranked where it would be an impossible fifth mafia member, unless there would be some way for it to take the place of a Random Mafia, but that would suck for the mafia because they're basically down a member. I guess it would work best if they added the Any slot back to Ranked and Ranked Practice.

So yeah, this is probably a terrible idea, but if anyone has ideas for improvements to make it more viable, feel free to share. I just wanted to get it down on paper somewhere. This is too OP/UP, depends on the point of view, OP because of reading maf chat, but UP because it is easy to spot.

I actually have no clue how to fix it, it is simply in the wrong direction This is also the reason why Vampires kill Guardian Angels, Mafia and Coven members instead of converting