Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-33167183-20180817003113

1. It has the most "underpowered" or weak roles out of any faction

- Only counters two roles, rarely happens, countered by

Ability does basically nothing, has to be dead which puts you at a numbers disadvantage

Is almost 100% caught on first kill, by another visitor or a


 * Not really weak, but does nothing until is dead other than kill.


 * Town will eventually hang you, rarely works, most can't play or will be killed by a.

roles are all useful, really only has,  don't really count.

2. Compared to the ...

is the as well as a better  and.

is, even more so when no necronomicon, because you can determine that the role is or. Literally a for

is a perma with arguably the most OP ability of killing the ENTIRITY OF NON COVEN, which can be done in like, four or five nights if the  has members and is good.

is a, , and for Coven, and it can kill alongside everyone else

distracts, but other than that, it's a nerfed , except unlike , it kills alongside other members

is pretty weak early game, but becomes later game, especially if there's, , , and dying.

The literally has the potential to wipe out every non-teamate with a, and to get multiple kills a night with  with Necronomicon, , and. The CL is one kill, the poisoner is 0.5 or with a distracted, and PM can gather, heal, and kill people. With a, the town is surely to lose unless they get lucky, or the is bad. Coming from CRP, and in All Any, if there's 4 mafia and 4 coven, the mafia basically can't win without luck on their side.

The does not have a version of, , , , or. 3/5 of those roles I listed are above, and they are weak. is only good if the knows what he's doing, and  is pretty good, but it doesn't nearly make up for all the power the  has.

3. In classic ranked

The has an around 80% win chance. No more information needed here.

Yes, while in all Any, there's a low chance of 4 members, even with three or even TWO, it can still be powerful. I've won several times as a solo in  all Any. 