Thread:TurdPile/@comment-25876622-20150120232501/@comment-25876622-20150121125137

Hi!

Okay, I see two possibilities here.

1. You didn't read my answer at all or you choose to ignore it, possibly a case of TL;DR. If this is truly the case, I am powerless and will regretfully yield to your admin status.

2. You really believe that currently, Godfather is unaligned and Mafioso is Mafia Support. In case this holds true, I have done four tests, please see below.

Test 1: Custom role setup [1x Godfather, 5x Mafia Support, 9x Neutral Killing] yielded no Mafioso. The chance was ~23,73% (75% chance to spawn Consigliere, Consort or Blackmailer instead of Mafioso, to the power of 5)

Test 2: Custom role setup [same as Test 1] yielded no Mafioso. The chance was ~5,63% (23,73% to the power of 2)

Test 3: Custom role setup [same as Test 1] yielded no Mafioso. The chance was ~1,34% (23,73% to the power of 3)

Test 4: Custom role setup [1x Mafioso, 5x Random Mafia, 9x Neutral Killing] yielded 1 Mafioso, 1 Janitor, 1 Blackmailer, 1 Framer, 1 Consort, 1 Godfather, and 9 irrelevant Neutral Killing roles.

I conclude two things: No, Mafioso is currently not among Mafia Support and Godfather is currently not Unaligned. Hundreds of games of personal experience and the three tests 1-3 above put the possibility of Mafioso being in any way related to Mafia Support at below 1%. The possibility of Godfather being unaligned has been disproven with a single attempt - since a Mafioso was specifically put into the role list, there was no inherent need to spawn another Mafia Killing role. However, it has happened - by a random chance of ~53,73% (100% minus 6/7 to the power of 5, as there are 6 Mafia roles and 1 Godfather role which were possible among the 5 Random Mafia).

Interpretation: The labels "Mafia Killing" reflect the current game perfectly and are logically sound as well. There is no reason to change them despite what the inherent programming may be.

Again, any programming specific labeling of roles which are both invisible and irrelevant to gameplay can be put on the Wiki as "future changes" or trivia, but not as fact.

Yes, if no killing role spawns, one of the Random Mafia turns Mafioso before the game starts. This fact has absolutely no relevance to the point at hand.

Kind Regards (and hoping to come to an understanding),

uli