Board Thread:Role Ideas (Neutral)/@comment-30331403-20161119205401/@comment-27398195-20161120024933

Vertroyer&#039;s Boyfriend wrote: you're comparing my idea to  A FRAMER??

THE 2ND STUPIDEST ROLE IN THE GAME?

i take that as a personal insult.

And framer doesn't COMPLETELY destroy invest games. This would absolutely DESTROY the invest's balance. Everyone would be that result towards the end of arso games

I'm sorry, many people don't complain about the framer being underpowered, but people complain about the arsonist being underpowered. You can look at some of the polls, look at the BMG forums, nobody complains about the framer because it's a generally good role, it also has a team of generally 3-4 people. I even see amnes pick this role a few times.

However, the arsonist gets complained about alot, yet nobody can find a viable buff for it, even the invest change doesn't do squat to it. And the arsonist is a solo man with a -1 kill timer that can be decreased further. And let me tell you something, outside of rainbow mode, I've only seen an amnesiac pick arsonist ONCE. And this is coming from a guy with 1,100+ games under his belt.

Also, in my game time as the arsonist, I have only 4 wins as an arsonist, and one of those was a custom game mode of ten Arsos v 5 town. The other three games I had an arsonist ally with me

What do you want Vert's boyfriend. A horrible role being buffed with a OK buff? Or a good role just being nerfed?