Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-31256456-20181228061901/@comment-37421692-20190120165722

Vertroyer wrote: NapstablookInfinity wrote: RASENGAN6 wrote: Well then the town is stupid--

Not the Ret's fault. My point is Retri is not as broken or invinicible as you make it sound like.

Oh yeah, and Vert. Are you trying to tell me that one specific role cannot make another role weaker? VH totally doesnt nerf Vampires to hell... oh and Medium doesnt really make Janitors that useless... VH is a hardcounter, Janitor is not. Medium is a role that might ​​​​​​​come out and counter Janitor. It is not a guarantee. The chances for the 2 roles to be in the same game are pretty low if you do the math. I don't know why you're using the Medium as an example here either, since you just argued that Ret and Med claims can be lynched simply by Janitor existing in the game. If you're going to shoot yourself in the foot, at least be more decisive about it.

You've also misinterpreted the point entirely. Retributionist needs a consistent counter, not praying to RNG that one of their RMs will be a Janitor. Mediums can be faked very easily, they can be killed, they can be stopped and you always have the killers needed to do it. You can't stop the Retribrokenist's resurrection when he does it, and your only consistent chance is killing him N1 or before any other townie dies which in itself is extremely low. Couple this with the fact that Retribrokenist's results are binary and not on a spectrum, he will perform that rez for the majority of the games, and that's one of the main reasons he's overpowered. Ret can be stopped by any role-blocker or Witch/CL.

Also, it brings back one fucking townie. It can confirm two townies generally, maybe three if there happens to be a medium with a Ret. And there is also the chance that the Ret might die before they even get a chance to revive.