Thread:Raven1207/@comment-31540897-20170905010000

So I've been getting word in my server that apparently Shadow posted a thread on your message wall, you bantered back and forth for quite a bit, and then you removed the thread.

Interesting. Because there have been a few problems that I've been seeing. Let's illustrate em here. And remember, I'll escalate the situation to all and any staff if necessary.

I can clearly see that we've got some issues with you. Like, a lot of people have issues. Lemme list em, ONE BY ONE. Make em clear, and distinct, because misunderstandings are a shit thing to have.

I'll try and make this as polite as possible.

1. Edit-racking. This is something that has been clearly demonstrated your mainspace edits. Edit-racking is a severe thing around here in the Wikia community: even if some say it's not that big of a deal, others (like me) won't be as nice about it, because of the way WE got our edit counts. Sorry, but that's the truth.

Let's take a look at your edits on August 30th, just as an example. You have 50 mainspace edits.

Judging off of previous scales, that's considered edit-racking. Also that's like 16 hours wasted of your life, but I won't judge you because that probably applies to half of the people here on the wikia.

Looking at your bytes that you add, your edits are most certainly minor edits, but you fail to check off the minor edit box. That's very annoying, because people wanna ignore minor edits sometimes: you failing to do that? Makes them go through history of edits for no point.

2. Removing closed threads. There's some level of respect that we carry around here in the Wikia, and that includes closing vs. removing threads. If a user removes a thread, they remove a thread. If a user closes a thread, they close a thread. That doesn't mean that if they close a thread, you remove it yourself, as they CLEARLY do not show interest in removing the thread if they didn't remove it themselves. And even if you argue that it's your thread, remember, that once you posted that thread on their message wall, you've essentially just handed them over the perms, and you shouldn't disrespect their decisions.

3. Being a ToTMer. This is not as huge as Shadow was reinforcing, but you gotta at least have some base of people to support you, and at least be friends with others. Being a friend implies that you have interacted with them quite a bit before, and they don't show obvious resentment under circumstances where only the two of you are present. And using my example as a ToTM baby bang isn't exactly the best choice, considering that I was already invested, and I presented myself as someone who was open, willing to accept criticism, and argue for myself but not blindly.

The key to being a good Wikia user in general, is to contribute. This can mean role-reviewing, mainspace, but in general just positive things that you do, that help the community. You also need to do them well. People will naturally nominate you for ToTM if they see that you've demonstrated these aspects.

Using my ToTM immediate nomination is a bit of a stretch for examples. Expanding on the positive contributions thing above, let's take a look at what I've done, as an easy example. I've done role-making, role-reviewing, RPs and having fun, story-writing: There's a lot of fun to it. Most people anyways, can agree to those, and have appreciation for those too. Contributions are fun most of the time, too!

I was able to start the blogstory-writing genre on ToS. If you didn't notice, there are no visible threads where I requested Desert to nominate me. However, he did it on his own: previous users had also said that I had a likelihood of getting ToTM soon on the Wikia. This isn't done by requesting, it's by showing you're a good person. If you don't, then this happens. That's also why Sondz and I got into a fight, because I did some wrong things (edit-racking), and he called me out on it. During the time, I took a defencive stance, but in reality he was right. I changed for the better from there, and I was able to grow back into something better again.

4. Overall, you kinda seem to fail to take hints. No offence, but like when I closed the pfp threads, when Rex (and Haw) is reluctant with your requests and pesters, when Shadow reopens threads...

Raven, I don't hate you. I genuinely don't hate anyone on this Wikia. Am I annoyed with you right now though? Yes, because of your actions.

Please respond properly to this message, and give your own articulate response in one message. I don't want this to be a pointless back-and-forth bicker, I want this to be a meaningful conversation where the both of us (and the community) can move forward from these problems.

If these aren't a problem anymore, just state it clearly. A lot of people helped me with this, and we seriously want this problem to just end.

I'm sorry for some of the disrespectful stuff too, that I've done. Thanks for reading all of this. 