Board Thread:Debate of The Week/@comment-28112409-20180228113931/@comment-31680260-20180311001534

Spoon King Gus wrote:

"You can then bus the Ambusher" You can bus Any mafia role, Ambusher just does the least prior to their bus. '''You can't bus a Crusader for any reason. Ambusher is more useful here.'''

"Crusader is totally pointless compared to other TP's." Crusader is the ONLY TP that can kill roles such as, again, Blackmailer, Framer, or disguiser. Also, unlike bodyguard, they don't need a Doctor to make the double TP synergy work. '''Nah, they'll just kill each other when they decide to guard the same target. None of the other TP's do that.'''

Again, this is assuming that Crusder will inevitably kill a townie. Yes, it is likely that they will kill a townie, but that doesn't mean that they don't synergize well with other townies (again, as I mentioned, TP roles.) '''You're forgetting that the Mafia has something the Town doesn't - a night chat. ALL Mafia roles have automatic synergy - they can plan things out without having to make themselves a target.'''

"I'm sorry what? They synergize with other townies by killing them at random? I don't understand this point here." Again, see above. This sounds like an argument from someone who is just salty about dying to Crusader a few times, rather than an actual thought-out decision. (and PLEASE don't take that as me saying your ENTIRE argument is like that, because it isn't. Some of your points are well thought out, and I'll give credit there where it's due.) '''Of course I'm salty about dying to Crusader as a townie, who wouldn't be? But that's not my argument, as you have said - and I'm hardly the only one to be annoyed at a so-called "protector" doing more to the Town than the Mafia has.'''

"Statistically, they're more likely to hit a townie than anything else at BEST. Once again, this is more than I can say for Crusader" Yeah, but the chances that you do hit a townie are lowered by you picking people that town knows would be an obvious crusader target. '''Same can be said for Ambusher, only the Mafia KNOW who not to visit when the Ambusher's camping outside someone's house. Amby wins again.'''