Board Thread:Role Ideas (Rework)/@comment-28278669-20190307210702/@comment-27575896-20190406203801

Cupcakeaj2 wrote: I don't have time to do all of them so I'll add the rest later.

=Make Town Power/Town Leader an alignment=

Jailor, Mayor, Retributionist, Transporter

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- You cannot jail the same person twice in a row.

Jailor is fairly balanced, this is a major evil help that can screw over most games, I don't think it needs this.



- You do not see Vampire night chat.

This isn't the Spy; sometimes mistakes should be made in Vampire chat, since there is zero way to tell who is and who isn't a Vampire via conversions.



- If you shoot a Town member, you will not commit suicide. Instead, you will lose all of your bullets.

'''No. Bad. Shitty. Terrible.'''



- No changes

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- Change the results

To what?



- No changes



- Remove it

HAH no.



- You can find Juggernaut (not fully powered), Witch (without barrier), and Jester.

'''No, no, and no. Also, everything just shows as suspicious, and NK now works as 2 are findable, 2 aren't. NK is bad enough, and Juggernaut doesn't need this shit on him. Nor does Witch. Jester, sure, but not needed.'''



- You will know the roles of all non-Town who visit the player you bug.

NOOOOOO



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- You cannot be saved from death when you kill someone.

'''So auto-kill? BG is fine as is, it's lucky for that to happen, and it can be stopped by multiple roles.'''



- You will attack visitors with the following priority list: Coven Evil, Mafia Killing, Neutral Killing, Town Killing, Mafia Deception, Mafia Support, Witch, Town Support, Town Investigative, Town Protective.

'''Evils over Town? This isn't the fucking Bodyguard. This is a no and buffs it beyond measurability. And why Coven over Mafia first?'''



- Select yourself at night to build a trap. You start with zero traps and can hold as many as you want.

'''Denied. Ruins the point of all TP's, where they get one night and one shot to do good, and not multiple.'''

- Select a player at night to place a trap at their house. Traps last until they're destroyed or triggered.

- You may select an already trapped player to destroy the trap.

- If you die, all traps will be destroyed except for the oldest one.

No.

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- No changes



- You cannot receive whispers but you can send them.

Useless, useless, no. There's a reason why Mayor's get no whispers.



- You have infinite seances but cannot seance the same player twice in a row.

NO NO NO NO. This is literally the reverse of itself when it dies.



- The revived player will only be revived for two days and two nights.

'''No, this doesn't help more than it is. Usually the revived player dies quickly anyway.'''

- You will know all notifications that the revived player receives.

Fuck no.

- You can talk with the revived player at night.

This is a Town night chat, sir. And this doesn't do much anyway.

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- You can pick a Mafia member at night to make them attack someone else.

'''ANY Mafia member? WHAT?'''

- The chosen Mafia member will still do their normal night ability.

'''Nice, so consigs can kill. This is a 2 KPN, combined with NK, which is 3 if it's SK. No thanks.'''

- You will know all night notifications that your Mafia receives.

This is the only plausible one.



- Remove it

Yeah no. GF is permanently ruined because of this.



- Remove it

'''Remove a useful MK role with the ability to do its job correctly, just with drawbacks? No.'''

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- Your target cannot rescind their vote or change it for 5 seconds.

No.



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- You may, instead, remove all night notifications a player gets, except for invesigation results.

'''Interesting idea, but it isn't helpful whatsoever. No notifications is always worse than more notifications.'''

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- You have only three disguises but they last until you switch targets.

Um...

- Your target will appear as their Mafia counterpart in Investigation results when they die. If there are none, they will appear as Disguiser. This effect lasts until you switch targets.

'''So you permanently clean someone's role appearance, but their will remains to fuck you over. This is useless, and is countered by the pre-1.5 strat of putting your name in the will.'''



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- Your target will appear to visit the Mafia's kill target to the Lookout and Tracker.

No, this doesn't help.

- You have Astral visits.

'''Nope, nada. No other Mafia has the Astral ability and this makes zero sense, and doesn't improve gameplay other than being immune to fucking EVERYTHING. Crusaders? Nope. Lookouts? Nope. Werewolves? Nope.'''



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- You will douse roleblockers.

Ehh...

- Igniting bypasses roleblock.

'''Nope. No NK has RB immunity.'''



- If you only kill one player, you will clean them but you will not know their role or will.

Meh...

- The full moon is every odd night.

So RIP N1 jailors, as always.



- The full moon is every odd night.

This doesn't help.

- You gain Basic Defense after the first kill.

No.

- You gain the ability to attack every night after the second kill.

- You gain Rampage attacks after the third kill.

- You gain Unstoppable and cleaning attacks after the fourth kill.

'''CLEANING? No.'''

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- If you are lynched, instead of killing someone who didn't vote innocent, no one will be able to be lynched the next day.

'''That is seriously useless and ruins the point of being Neutral Evil. No major consequences over someone important dying.'''



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- Select a player at night to protect.

- You will grant them Unstoppable Defense for that night and grant them lynch immunity.

'''HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA no. Also, it's invincible defense, hate to break it to you. No no no no and no.'''

- If they get voted up, they immediately get pardoned.

...have you like never played GA? They aren't even able to get voted up period.

- You cannot protect the same player twice in a row.

Err...no.

- If the last person you saved from death wins, you win as well.

'''This is useless? If your target is alive, period, you win. So if they lose, YOU LOSE?'''



- Select a payer each night to hide behind.

This isn't the Hobo.

- All of your visitors will visit the person you hid behind instead.

'''THIS ISN'T THE FUCKING HOBO. This is literally a reverse escort.'''

- You start off with one use and gain another when you don't use your night ability.

'''​​​​​​​That doesn't help much at all. Vests by themselves do wonders.''' Most of the roles are fine as is, they don't need to be nerfed or buffed.