Board Thread:Role Ideas (Neutral)/@comment-26233104-20170405014245/@comment-26233104-20170409023845

SpicyboiFelix wrote:

PinocchioMiku doth written:


 * ALRIGHT LET'S TEAR THIS APART, MY ARMS ARE SORE ANYWAYS

Alignment: Neutral Evil


 * Seems legit

Abilities: Every 2 nights, choose someone to sew a puppet of.


 * Why every 2 nights?

Attributes

- Your puppets take two days to sew.


 * I originally had a question here, but you managed to cover it below. Nice job on that.

- You will be able to control the non-targetable actions of your "puppet" by one day, such as talking and/or voting.


 * ...so they can control talking and voting. No good, messes with the Chat and voting system. Also promotes gamethrowing.

- If you are roleblocked, you'll have to sew your puppet again.


 * Ohhh okay, that answers my question

- You cannot sew a puppet of the Mayor if he's revealed. You can't also sew a puppet of another puppeteer.


 * ...wait there can be multiple?

- Your targets will know that they've been puppeted.

- You won't know the role of your puppet, neither change his will.


 * Okay, I just finished reading. So what happens to your target? Can they not speak or vote? Because if that's the case, then this is just a buffed.

Backstory


 * Sorry, I'm just gonna ignore this. Despite loving the lore, I still need to complete looking at this role.

Goal

Survive to see the Town lose the game.


 * Good job! Some people NEVER know how to make goals <_<

Immunities

- Bite Immune


 * ...from what I've seen so far, only the Night Immune are immune to bites. No good.

Invest Results

Investigator: Your target keeps to themselves. They could be a Survivor, Vampire Hunter, Witch or Puppeteer.

Conwitch: Your target is a crazy master in the dark arts. They must be a Puppeteer.


 * hah love that abbreviation. pretty creative title there!

Sheriff: Your target is a member of the Mafia!


 * ??? UM WHY??? EXPLAIN?

Gameplay

Jess One is a Puppeteer.

Jess Two is a Survivor.

Jess Three and Jess Four are random Town roles.

Jess One made a puppet of Jess Four.

Jess Three does not know that Jess Four is town, and, since he's talking weird, votes him up.

Jess Two also votes him up.

Jess Four is put in trial, onto Jess One's control.

Jess Three and Four vote guilty.

Jess Four is lynched and Jess One backs to the control of his player.

Jess Two sees that there's only one town and it's better align to the Maf/Neutral instead.

Jess One and Jess Two win.

Disadvantages

- Your ability takes too long, and if roleblocked, you'll have to start all over again.

- You can be easily proved as evil.

Advantages

- You can take control of a confirmed town role and say things to prove you are non suspicious.

Extra notes

- If rejected, don't be a dick.

- If you would like to criticize, don't be a dick.. Alright, I see that you've definitely been thorough with this role. I'm surprised this role wasn't looked at by any of our fellow peeps. Anyways, a few issues.

1. Does the Puppetteer's puppet substitute the player completely, or does the puppet only add on to speech? (I assume the prior)

2. Would you recieve a message getting "You could not create a target. Your puppet was destroyed!" for being role-blocked AND discovering another Puppeteer? Because that's a lot more elusive.

3. How would the vote/chat function work? Would you have a completely separate interface?

Now, onto other problems. Considering that this role can be read as gamethrowing, since the Town can simply spew false information and cause people to mistrust. This would mess with the Trial System, which would be no good at all. So for this issue...

The Puppeteer has died! You were stabbed by a Role-Reviewer!

1. No, you would only use the puppet for 1 day. The next day, the owner of the puppet can speak normally.

2. Yes. I'll add that.

3. No. It would function like old Disguiser - you are you, but with another nickname.