Board Thread:Role Ideas (Rework)/@comment-31379122-20170311234342/@comment-27398195-20170319173951

Yes I&#039;m single wrote: hawaiian it doesn't hardcounter spy it softcounters spy hardcounter is like vh, where a role is purposefully designed to break another role.

​Ok, Softcounter, it still counter's spy

anyway, I like the second framer buff and the consig nerf, you might want to consider taking that to bmg

'''​In lore, once again, same with the investigator, the consigilere checks the house, not the person for clues, and "balance>lore" or "balance>logic" isn't needed because consigilere balances the mafia's win rate, so it doesn't need a nerf. Besides, Consigilere has been already slightly nerfed thanks to the new arso buff.'''

​I can agree with the second framer buff tho.