Board Thread:Role Ideas (Rework)/@comment-37889585-20190128130957/@comment-38161154-20190128205319

Thread Retributionist wrote: Now before you all go saying this is a copycat role, I read the guidelines and that rule doesn't seem to exist anymore. Also this breaks a ton of rules, but BEGONE FILTHY RULES

...no thanks

So here we go im *so* excited

The current disguiser mechanics- bye. This role is ENTIRELY different. NONE of the current disguiser mechanics are still here.

So you only have one disguise. *cough* I thought u said this was ENTIRELY different You can use it any night you want to. why wouldnt ya

Vigi: I have 3 bullets, imma shoot nights 1 2 and 3 bc i have to.

There are certain roles it won't work on- Retributionist, Spy, Sheriff, Psychic, Jester, Executioner, Bodyguard, NB, because you won't gain anything from those. Probably some roles I missed, point that out and I shall add it in.

witch

Mayor, Vampire Hunter, Vampire, MK, Transporter, NK, NC, Coven and Jailor for balance reasons. Again, probably missed one, please point it out. still witch

So as you have likely guessed, you will gain that role's abilities. wait so this disg can become a worse consigliere for the rest of the game

You still keep your Investigator results, dont hurt the buffed disg and the name in any kills you might get and on death will show the role you became, but in red. wait, so if u become vigi and shoot a dude, lets say Threat Ret, when it says Thread Ret died will the 'vigilante' in 'He was shot by a Vigilante' be red?

Some roles will work differently than what they did previously. oh yay

Vigilantes- don't commit suicide. Only get 2 bullets. if you commit suicide for shooting the confirmed ret, that would be dumb, so ya

Veteran- hides wills, but not roles. You do NOT get the will.

'''(n6) Thread Ret died last night. He was killed by a Veteran. We could not find a last will. Thread Ret's role was Sheriff.'''

Foxy: wait, he posted his will yestreday 

Any other obvious things I'm missing, tell me. this is your role, how am I supposed to know an obvious detail you missed

I know what you're thinking-

"BUT IF I GET CRUSADER/ESCORT I'LL JUST BE A  BUFFED AMBUSHER/CONSORT AAAAAAHHHH" and yes, you will. no, im thinking about this:

Mafia list (all any)

- Godfather

- Ambusher - Disguiser - Disguiser

- Disguiser

'''one disg finds the vigilante. The other two become a vigi. Ambusher kills n1 and n2. Thats, what, 5 KPN? oh god'''

go ahead and vertroy. This idea is likely terrible.

if you don't like it, why post it?? So, just to clarify, here's the TK messages:

"Thread Ret was found dead in their home last night. He was shot by a Vigilante. "

"Thread Ret was found dead in their home last night. He was killed by a Veteran. "

but yes, this can be OP at times, yet it would be very, VERY situational. How about making it so that 2 disgs can't remember the same thing. Also, buttons and messages. Will this be like a consig where as soon as it disguises as somebody, the disg finds their role? Plus, how long will each disguise last? If they disguise as a vigi, but it goes off next day, then this whole 'buff' makes it even more useless. Just always seen as a disguiser and no moral value at all. Also, when becoming a vigi, that can be 2+ mafia KPN. which we really don't need.

I hope im not 'vertroy'-ing this, but I don't neccesarily think this idea is terrible, it just doesn't work that well because it would be too OP in some cases. Just simply remembering a vigi or vet could cause chaos. And there is almost ALWAYS a TK in games.

All the same, I don't know how to improve this, it just seems either OP or UP. What good will becoming a TI be? Or a doc? Escort can RB vigi and jailor, yes, but it would be better to become the vigi and shoot the current vigi? Higher chance that you find a vigi claim than an escort one. TI, TP, and TS all aren't helpful, so what are the chances you will find a crus/TK? And that that TK isnt jailor/VH.

I just dont think this will neccesarily work.