Talk:String Table Localization/Gui Turkish.xml/@comment-176.232.182.94-20170318211121

Dear devs and contributors, please read this. We have a couple of conflicts we must first solve before the translations are complete. This file is not yet ready to used in the game, because it is inconsistent with the other 2 xml files. They must be corrected in accordance to this file (which I can do), after the conflicts I will mention are resolved.

TheSowil, first of all, thank you for correcting small mistakes. But I am sorry that I can not agree with your suggestion "My roles names are better than yours." I know that translation is a hard task, and am writing this to clarify some stuff, as well as to point out our mistakes and obstacles. I think that you have contributed the translation with some nice role names like "Kimlik Hırsızı" (identity thief), but many others are impractical or downright wrong. Here are a couple of translations I would like to talk about:

First of all, you can't call Mafioso a "Mafya Üyesi" (mafia member) because it will mix up with Sheriff's (and much more other) strings, which include "Hedefin bir mafya üyesi!" (Your Target is a member of the mafia!). Also, a Mafioso is literally  a "Tetikçi", doing the Godfather's dirty work for him.

Second of all, I believe "Zindancı" is a rarely used and an outdated word. "Gardiyan", on the other hand is much more common, and an exact translation of the Jailor's profession, "Prison Guard" (check the summary tab on the Jailor's wiki page).

Another wrong translation (for our case) is, I believe, "Müfettiş" (inspector) for Investigator. The Investigator is a Holmes-esque detective, not an inspector, thus the translation "Araştırmacı" or "Dedektif".

-"Nöbet tutma" for Veteran's alert is wrong. Nöbet tutmak translates as watching or guarding, however what the vet does is "tetikte durmak" (staying alert).

-"Sataşma" for WW's rampage is a horrible translation, it means "to pick on someone". While rampage doesn't have an perfect translation in Turkish, "kudurmak" is a more or less accurate.

-The exact translation of abstaining is "çekimser kalmak", thus the translation "çekimser". "Kararsız" is "incertain" or "undecided", thus wrong.

-The phrase "özel bir gizli bir göz" (a private eye) is non-existent in Turkish. A better phrase for an investigator is "araştırmacı".

-There is no point in changing the Turkish word "engellemek" (to literally prevent someone -in our case from using their role-) with "bloklamak", which is a non-existent word in the Turkish dictionary.

-A Consigliere is an advisor to the Godfather, both in real life and works of fiction, thus the translation "Danışman". But I can see why you have gone for "Araştırmacı", because he investigates people. I believe that the literal translation is better, because the translation of Investigative (as in role) is "Araştırmacı" or "Araştırıcı", so that there are no mix-ups, but this one should be open for debate.

-Two tricky role names to translate are the "Survivor" and the "Retributionist". Survivor can be translated as "Kurtulan" (rough but more practical for gameplay), or "Sağ Kalan" and "Hayatta kalan" (which are more accurate but longer words). The Retributionist  has no literal translation except "Müntekim" (which is unfortunately not a word of Turkish origin), so I didn't touch it (Müntekim was a previous translator's idea). You have chosen to call him "Yaşam Verici" (Life giver, based on his role I believe), but I must say that it looks a bit forced. Call him "Diriltici" (roughly revivalist) maybe? I would like to hear other some ideas for these roles too.

This is all I would like to emphasize for now. I would be glad if the community can do some suggestions for the Survivor and the Retributionist. Because I like this game and want the Turkish players to have the best possible experience playing it.