Board Thread:Role Ideas (Neutral)/@comment-68.96.244.8-20180626231503/@comment-25615841-20180629131454

TheRetroPioneer wrote: RubikJohn wrote: TheRetroPioneer wrote: Dear RubikJohn,

There were no revolvers or small hand-held guns of any kind in Salem, but the Mafioso's scroll picture has a small pistol. This is also evident in cover pictures for the Mafioso, where in one he is holding a 1918 Tommy Gun.

There were primitive firearms using gunpowder.

Those aren't Tommy Guns.

and the tommygun is only shown on the icon.

(From my research), petrolium and gasoline were not sold in jerry cans in the late 1600s. The suit that the Arsonist wears also reinforces the 'future technology' point.

Yep. Arsonists still existed though, they just might not have used gasoline.

"You were doused in gasoline"

oh, right. either way, gasoline didn't have to be sold in jerry cans, or barrels.

Bulletproof vests did not exist during the Salem Witch trials, and they still do not exist today. (Those are Bullet RESISTANT vests you are thinking of)

''Uh huh. But neither survivor or bodyguard are based off that priniciple. its a side thing for them, merely an extra ability.''

Survivor's vests are clearly just an extra ability.

well, the surv's goal is to just survive, so the ability is just something to help it

I'm pretty sure there were not Jesters that wanted to kill themselves during the Salem Witch Trials.

There were Jesters though

They didn't want to kill themselves

There were still Jesters though

Several of the Cosmetic items are not from the 17th century or eariler.

Those are costemitc items. they're completely different.

Sure I can go with that



People with mystical abilities such as the Medium and Psychic would have been hanged, and therefore, against the town.

That doesn't have anything to do with the existence of these roles. But yeah, you're right.

Yeah

Medicine during the 1600s was very bad. The Doctor role is very unrealistic.

Yes, but doctors still existed.

Yes, but they didn't know how to fix stab wounds and gunshot wounds.

for the most part, no, but no game is 100% historically accurate. when i criticise roles because theyre not realistic it has to make no sense whatsoever

Full moons do not happen every other night.

That doesn't have anything to do with the roles being realistic and correct when it comes to when they existed. Besides that, no game is perfect, and this was only used to balance the werewolf

Yes

The Crusader is definitely not from the 1600s.

Yep. This is one where you're perfecly correct.

Yeah

The taunts.

Cosmetics.

I agree with that

The way people are executed in Town of Salem.

It's true that no one was actually hanged, but most of the executions were used and/or existed back then.

Most—not all

cosmetics tho

The Sheriff Skin is called the Old Western Sheriff, and the lore for the Sheriff suggests that they are from the West. This would be relevant to the 19th century, and therefore Manifest Destiny.

Sheriffs still existed though, and the sheriff skin is a cosmetic.

The lore for the Sheriff says he's from the West.

its the lroe >_>

Night immunity is unrealistic.

Nothing to do with the credibility of the existence of this game tho

That's agreeable/arguable

Pirate's lore story.

its a fucking lore story

Yeah it is

Hypnotist is DEFINITELY NOT a themed role to Salem.

Uh huh, but

'''but what?? plz explain'''

sorry, I took a break and moved on when I came back

Bodyguard's scroll picture shows an earpiece.

It's a scroll picture. Not like bodyguards were unheard of back then, I'm sure some intelligent souls had the brilliant idea of hiring protection, even in the late 17th century.

Yeah, but that doesn't say anything related to the earpiece.

Mayor's scroll picture shows a "VOTE" icon with red, white and blue. This is an American symbol, and America did not exist during the Salem Witch Trials. Also, public elections were not a thing within Great Britain until ~1707.

nitpicking.

It's not nitpicking; it's a "VOTE" icon

it's still only an icon. and though there may not have been parties, im sure someone came across the great idea of an election even before the witch trials

note: witch trials

Jester's scroll icon shows a jack-in-the-box, which was invented during the 1950s

seriously?

yeah

Ambusher's scroll icon shows a knife that is almost identical to a M3239-BRK. Defininetly not a 17th century weapon.

How much time did you spend checking this?

5 minutes

Envelope were in envented during the 1800s, but the Blackmailer's scroll image shows an envelope.

why Yeah ​​​​​​​

Hahaha, cheers.

Although, yes, I do not see a point to an Arsonist rehash when you could just spawn two arsonists in one game. Dear Retro,

I do accept your weak attempt at mockery, but I must point out that I'm pointing out that some roles are completely unrealistic, not with slight enhancements such as the multiple icons you have such a problem with. Besides that, this is BMG's will, and not mine. You're right when it comes to the crusader, but it's a negative utility, RNG role and a lot of us here believe the devs were smoking crack when making this.

Regards,


 * Rubik

Dear Rubik,

Yeah. There are two fronts here. But I don't get the mockery part.

Cheers,

Retro