Board Thread:Role Ideas (Neutral)/@comment-33666694-20171210075737/@comment-33877233-20171210150559

IloveTTMOMO wrote: Remember there can't be no alien when theres no cow and no alien hunter when no alien BMG is super against roles that depend on other roles so there is your first problem

Name:Cow

Alignment:Neutral Benign

Attack:None

Defense:None

Unique Role:Yes

Attributes:None

Abilities:You can disguise

-Disguise (2 uses only)

Mechanics:Prevent the alien from finding you.Use your disguise to hide as a normal person

For Example:

When the alien finds you while your not disguised

The Alien found you.

When the alien finds you while your disguised

The alien visited you last night but he sees you as a person

-Investigative Results-

Sheriff:Your target is not suspicious

Investigator:Your target could be a Disguiser,Amnesiac,Spy or Cow

'''These are not proper investigative results, you cannot make results up. '''

Here is a link to the investigator page of results: http://town-of-salem.wikia.com/wiki/Investigator 

Consigliere/Witch:Your target is trying to hide from an alien they must be a cow!

Goal:Prevent the alien from finding you

Wins with:Anyone

Must Kill:Anyone

Name:Alien

Alignment:Neutral Evil

Attack:Powerful

Defense:None

Unique Role:Yes

Attributes:You may check one person every night to check if they are cow

Again, depends on there being a cow

Abilities:

-Abduct

Mechanics:Find the Cow before the alien hunter kills you.You can choose to check someone each night to see if they are cow if they are cow you will Kill it  to death No one can protect the cow even if somebody healed him Guarded him and etc.You won't be able to kill the cow if its disguised.Alien won't die if they visit Alien hunter except if the alien hunter didn't do anything

For Example:

You investigated Town or any other roles that is not a cow

Target is not a cow

You investigated disguised cow

Target is not a cow

You investigated cow

You found the cow you killed it to death you won!

check your grammer

-Investigative Results-

Sheriff:Your target is not suspicious

Investigator:Your target could be a Mafioso,Executioner,Vampire  or Alien

'''again why are you making up results? http://town-of-salem.wikia.com/wiki/Investigator '''

Consigliere/Witch:Your target is trying to find a cow they must be an alien!

Goal:Find the cow before the alien hunter finds you

Wins with:Everyone except Cow

Must kill:Cow

Name:Alien Hunter

Alignment:Neutral Killing

Neutral killing wants to kill the entire town/mafia/coven, not just the Alien or whatever

Attack:Unstoppable

Defense:None

Unique Role:Yes

Attributes:You may check one person each night to see if they are alien

Abilities:

-Hunt

Mechanics:Find the Alien before it kills the cow.You may check a person each night to see if they're cow.If alien visits you it won't die except if you choose to stay home (do nothing)

For Example:

When you check town

Your target is not an alien

When you check alien

Your target is an alien you stabbed it to death

grammer

-Investigative Results-

Sheriff:Your target is not suspicious

Investigator:Your target could be a Vampire Hunter,Executioner,Mafioso or Alien Hunter

'''and you yet again made up invest results, and this time its even conflicting with the other invest results, why? http://town-of-salem.wikia.com/wiki/Investigator '''

Consigliere/Witch:Your target is trying to hunt down an alien they must be an Alien Hunter

Goal:Hunt down the alien before it abducts the cow

Wins with:Anyone except Alien

Must Kill:Alien



Took me 3 hours to make this      its fine even the reviews are negative cause its like vampire hunter

'''this took you 3 hours??? anywhere in those 3 hours did you read the guidelines or you know, play the game and think of balance issues??''' Okay first of all... Your invest results are all messed up. Second of all you cannot make roles that are dependent apun others (do not compare that to what BMG makes). Third of all NK's want to kill everyone else, meaning Town/Mafia/Coven or other NK's, not just 1 target the Alien.

Okay lets rip this apart, 1 role idea at a time, starting with the Cow, then the Alien, then the Alien Hunter

So the Cow's goal is to not be found by the Alien? So its like Survivor but you just have to outlast the Alien? Some might find that to be a Survivor Rehash/Change, another thing is that its very dependent on there being an Alien, and thus an Alien Hunter, that means the Cow is Dependent on 2 other roles, and BMG hates having a role idea thats dependent apun 1 other Specific Role. Another thing, you put it to be Neutral Evil, except Neutral Evil is a role that has a Goal that they actively carry out that helps/hurts the Town, no NE will hurt the mafia (except jest haunt) and usually they want to work with mafia, in any way, a NE will interect and hinder the Town in their efforts to get the Mafia/Coven, this is just like survivor, making it more like Neutral Benign, and even then not really because Neutral Benign can help/hinder either or both sides. This would be almost seperate from the game as its never been done before in this game. its completely depend on Alien and Alien Hunter. Its like a seperate section of the game, of the role list. And that goes for the other 3.

So next we have is the Alien, the Alien's goal is to find and abduct the Cow, or whatever Kill it Idk. This is also depend on 2 other roles, especially the Cow as that is its goal and Alien Hunter as that is well its Hunter, similar to Vampire Hunter(except not at all and I will review Alien Hunter later) Besides the fact that your invest results are messed up, this also in no way affects the town or the mafia. You are just an extra vote, or rather 1 less vote as you do not want to Cow to be hanged. This would make the mafia and Coven against you. Not to mention that the chance of you getting the Cow before the cow is killed or hung or anything, is very unlikely, as you get no hints, no clues, no way to tell who is the cow except by process of elimination. You also put this as Neutral Evil, except again, Neutral evil wants to harm/hinder the town in some way, not have their own goal like getting the Cow, and you might say well Executioner has its own goal, to get its target lynched, but the Executioners target will ALWAYS be town (except for Mayor and Jailor of course). Overall this role is too dependent and does not fit into the NE slot as it has its own goal, which is another Neutral evil which is not something that is in the game yet.

And Now for the Alien Hunter... Well I will just say now this role is also dependent apun another 2 roles, very heavily, as its Goal is to kill the Alien, yet teh Alien wants to get the Cow, and if there is no cow there is no alien and no alien hunter, so v ery dependent and BMG does not like having dependent roles except for what they made because they made the game, they can do that. You classify this as Neutrak killing, but Neutral Killing wants to kill the Entire town, Mafia, Coven, and other Neutral Killings. this only wants to find and kill the Alien which is not what Neutral Killing is all about, for this to be Neutral Killing, you might want to it to be, kill the entire town/mafia/coven and kill the cow, and buff this a little bit change the name and just completely rework it to be Neutral Killing. You also say that this is like the Vampire Hunter but its not, because Alien just wants to get the Cow and should be Neutral Benign, and the Cow wants to survive, also making it Neutral Benign, so this Alien Hunter would have to be Neutral Benign as well, since its only going for 2 specific roles, and neither are Town or Mafia, let me explain, the Goal of the Vampires is to kill or Convert everyone. this is like the Mafia/Coven except they can convert and you know different abilities. But the Vampires want to Kill EVERYONE, not just 1 target. and the Vampire Hunter, wants to kill all Vampires in general, not 1 specific Cow/Role like the Alien Hunter.

So there you go, you asked for a review, and I reviewed it, now my fingers hurt and I need to go get some coffee after that. Overall I do not think that this will ever work, especially not 3 roles that all need to be in game, depend apun each other, and do not interact witht the Town/Coven/Mafia/Other Neutrals at all. Normally I would not Reject a role idea/s but this is just so out there, and so out of Format and Not at all balanced/works in the game that I will have to give it a REJECTED, sorry