Board Thread:Debate of The Week/@comment-28112409-20171002223259/@comment-31680260-20171007211216

DesertStorm11 wrote: Disguiser (if it's Town) actually removes claimspace from both scum and Town. If it's not Town (say, Amnesiac, or even another Mafia), it still gets a false role in the graveyard. A lot of Disguiser games I've played, people never realize it was a Disguiser until the very late-game (This was Ranked and RP lol). While the so-called "confirmed" role takes up whatever slot, it removes that claimspace entirely, causing confusion. (But... the townies don't need claimspace. Making a false claim as a Town role is usually seen as gamethrowing unless the circumstance NEEDED you to hide. That just hurts your Mafia.)

Yeah... (with the two of ours at maximum can get detection immunity) Once again, this is why we have so many Deception roles. We can screw with the Town aaaalll the time :D (And we can: Turn them to stone, force them to drink evil Kool-Aid, poison them to death, maul them with a reanimated corpse, turn them to dust with an unstoppable hex, drain their life until nothing's left but a withered husk... Put it this way. I'd rather have the ability to kill than the ability to lie, even IRL. If I get attacked, lying my way out of the situation probably wouldn't work if the kidnapper's crazier than I am (and to attack me, he'd be damn well crazy considering the sheer amount of AXES AND SWORDS around my house). Killing the bugger would absolutely get me free! And it would be considered self-defense, because it IS self-defense - so I could literally get away with killing someone. Sound familiar...? That is exactly what your Mafia are trying to do, is it not?)

Coven Leader has as much of a chance of getting attacked as any other Coven role, same thing with getting checked by investigatives, lynched, etc. (I'm literally arguing against your "before she gets the Necronomicon" part, I already know it's the same for Mafia.) (Therefore... this point is kinda neutral on both sides. Unless I read that wrong.)

Yes... on the off-chance that you'll protect the single Coven on the night they need it, the chance you'll even have a heal potion ready, and/or the chance that there will even be dead protectives. (Better than the Mafia, who have pretty much ZERO protection capabilities outside of roleblocking (which the CL can do).