Talk:Vigilante/@comment-201.8.246.241-20141117155717

I never thought too much about vigilante. But yesterday i was vigilante trhice and realized vigilante is actually a weak role when  contributing with town.

For example, jailor can jail the person, talk to her and kill her(and living to jail, but not execute, even if he killed someone from town). Plus, the jailor can kill night immune roles, and due to the talking he has plenty of information to work with. Also, when checked by investigator, he will be 100% townie. Really the only difference i see is that jailor gets killed by SK if he doesn't execute him.

On the other side, vigilante can only choose to shoot the person, and will die if he is from town. He can't kill night immune roles too. Of course, if he shoots a night immune role, he may say it out loud. But there are only three types of vigilantes i've ever seen:

1. The one who leaves because his role is vigilante.

2. The one who shoots people whom the vigilante deems suspicious or just go trigger happy.

3. The one who waits for the information to come by, from an investigator, for example.

By this logic, the 1st doesn't even play his role. The 2nd usually kills someone from town, unless, in a very special ocasion, there's only one or two mafia, excluding godfather, and there are but a few players. The 3rd probably will think way too much before shooting, and will only shoot someone who is certain to be an enemy of town, or if town is in a very critical situation (3 towns left but 1 or more enemies, for example), that is, if he doesn't die before.

Plus, when investigated, it will say that he owns weapons, meaning Vigilante, Mafioso or Veteran. Investigator may tell everyone that he owns weapons and he will probably have a trial, and it won't be easy to defend. Investigator may also whisper him "what's your role", and some people may not be willing to tell him, the investigator deeming him a mafia. If he works with investigator he may actually be able to do something against non immune roles, but i don't see this happening too often.

Well anyway, that's my oppinion, but if someone has anything to add, i would appreciate, because i can see that Vigilante is not so good a role.