Board Thread:Role Ideas (Neutral)/@comment-27398195-20170603035547/@comment-27398195-20170603214150

Addfire wrote:

HAWAIIANpikachu wrote:

Addfire wrote: Still noncommittal but also the Serial Killer is basically the mascot of Town of Salem. Who do you play as in the tutorial? Serial Killer.

​Which was removed...

So? That just means that people didn't like it. The point is, devs believed that the Serial Killer mattered the most.

'''​It was removed due to it not teaching the players correctly, not because people didn't like it. '''

What is the only NK in Classic, the mode for beginners? Serial Killer.

​We also have the juggernaut, a role that is also at the beginning an SK, so it's easy to get a grip at, and teaches you about werewolf's main ability.

The will only be released for the Coven update. So, people who don't want to buy the new one won't ever get to play as it. The is also extremely rare to get, so the likelyhood of you learning anything from it as a noobie is low.

'''​There's also Coven Classic, you know, another mode for beginners. And rarity doesn't matter if you add it into the match by hand, which they probably will have the juggernaut there due to it being the only coven neutral killing role they made, and the only reason they wanted it to be a secret role was to encourage players to find out what is was, there would be no reason for it to be a secret anymore now that almost everyone knows about it.'''

​In fact, we could just replace the serial killer with the consigilere in normal classic replacing a killing role with a powerful mafia role that is easy to get a grip on, as you argued earlier.

You can't replace it.

​It's an possible idea, it can or cannot be added.

Wow okay Captain Sarcasm I meant that you would be wise not to.

'''​I never said that we had to replace it. I said it was a good idea, due to not only the serial killer being the most screwed over role in the game, it's also one of the most underpowered roles in the game (other then WW and Arsonist and possibly vampires) and also currently being thought to buff up the serial killer and there were people suggesting ways to do so.'''

'''​The serial killer is also one of the more bland roles in the game, nothing to back it up as a good role excluding the fact that it kills everynight, The werewolf and arsonist have are underpowered as well but at least they have good abilities, killing all visitors and being able to disguise others roles to look like an arsonist and also being able to do mass killing. Even the ambusher, a role I hate with all my life, at least adds a different killing method to the table.'''

'''​Replacing the serial killer with this role not only will remove a bland, screwed over role from the game, it will also slighty buff the doctor and crusader roles, and add another role with a different concept. Making the game a more enjoyable experience and not just a bland game full of rehashes or bad concepts. Which is what we are trying to avoid as role reviewers, making bad roles.'''