Board Thread:Debate of The Week/@comment-28112409-20171002223259/@comment-31680260-20171005221602

Addfire wrote: Jallybwan wrote: Those two games are likely outliers in terms of total games played, and I doubt that data is average. It's reflected in actual ToS as well - we could have had the exact same lineup on all sides, and another faction might have won. Hell, it might have come down to only the GA surviving as a Surv.

That's the beauty of a game like ToS... you never really know what's gonna happen. You can't predict the outcome of a game just based on the list of roles. But the point of this debate is what team is better, and the vast majority of arguments have been based on what team has better roles ! Desert's point is extremely valid, don't ignore it by changing the rules of the game...

When did I change the rules? I was simply pointing out that those games aren't average games of ToS. I wasn't discounting the data, it's valid data, but it isn't average and thus not a very good standing point.

Regarding what you said about the arguments being based on which team has better roles - While that's certainly a huge aspect of the debate, likely the most important, games are decided on how the player plays them. But the problem with that is that we can't really categorize players in a debate of this format... so either way, the results are never perfectly accurate.