Board Thread:Role Ideas (Neutral)/@comment-81.44.20.239-20181009112221/@comment-36558623-20181012005557

81.44.20.239 wrote: Alignment:Neutral Killing

Game Information: You are a master at using blades, so they're like parts of your body which you can control with your mind

Attack: Powerful

Defense: Basic

Unique Role:yes

Abilities: Each night choose a player to kill, but you need a night to clean your blades. After your 3rd kill your attacks become Astral and you dont need a night to clean your blades.

-Investigative results-

Sheriff: Detection Immunity when attacking

Investigator:Your target is a Doctor/Serial KIller/Disguiser/Blade Master

Consigliere/Witch/Coven Leader: Your target is a master at using blades to kill, they must be a  Blade Master!

Goal:Kill all who would oppose you

Wins with:Blade Master,Pirate,Survivor,Amnesiac, Guardian Angel and Witch.

Must  Kill:Town, Mafia, Coven, Plaguebearer/Pestilence, Arsonist,Werewolf and Serial Killers.

You can pardon any others. This role is extremely UP. An NK's purpose is to kill someone each night

sk does this

ww will usually kil 1-3 each night so it can low-role or high-role depending on skill

arso is UP because of this (but probably still more powerful then Blade Master)

the Blade Master would kill 3 people in 6 nights and 6 nights is the usual amount of days in this meta, so that means it would barely kill at all.

As for the reward after killing, it isn't close to enough power. The role needs to become faster and have a better reward.

Remember that the loss of a kill needs a serious benefit to balance it out. The SK doesn't have this and is generally considered the best NK. The WW does have this and the way to balance this is more kills next night, which can be high risk high reward. The Arso does have this and tries to make everyone doused look like an Arsonist buying them night to light the entire town.

There's a reason SK has the highest win-rate, it has no risk. The SK kills someone every night with no exception, the WW required you to think how other people would think, which almost always fails. The Arso's doused targets usually die and then nobody dies to Arso. So if the Blade Master needs to take nights off, it needs to be worth it. To be honest, even if the Blade Master killed astral and had detection immunity every other night it would still be UP.

I suggest that there is no timing shift, and you clean all your targets.