Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-27398195-20200121233049/@comment-31256456-20200125035640

NightOneMedium wrote: Ranked Role List: This probably isn't what the majority thinks but this is my opinion on how these roles rank up from a Silver ranked player

S Tier:

-  (Self explanatory,Gives more claim space for Mafia and is one of the reasons why claiming Medium is instant ded,isn't countered by Spy, however suffers from a meh invest result with not much to claim)

'''While this is true, there are a few counters- S Tier generally means overpowered or extremely good with almost no flaws. But we can debate the validity of the definition of S Tier, so I'm fine with this placement. '''

- (Gives info about who have important roles such as Jailor and Mayor, Buffs other  bad Mafia roles such as Disguiser and Forger aswell as giving the Mafia the opportunity to  have a decent Town Investigative Claim, somewhat countered by Spy)

Fair, though it doesn't cause deception, it certainly gives the other Mafia Support/Deception more info to do its work.

A Tier:

-  (Detection immunity for Sheriff, Basic Defense for Vigilante and some NK which can make Mafia win in the correct situation,can attack if Mafioso is unable to,isn't countered by Spy, can give doubt to TP claims,suffers from not much to claim)

'''Godfather is the only killing role and is the most reliable way to kill. You must have the Godfather/Mafioso to effectively win as Mafia. I would put it in S Tier personally. '''

- (Shutdowns pretty much every Town Role except for Medium, Mayor, Veteran, and Escort, protects mafia by roleblocking TP and/or TI, helps kill important town roles by rbing TP, makes Escorts suspicious,somewhat countered by Spy, suffers from not much to claim)

'''With Consig, Consort becomes a lot more effective. Consort is pretty good, doesn't really have that many weaknesses, but it's not really that gamebreaking either. '''

-  (Can become the Godfather,can attack if the Godfather is unable to, protects the Godfather,decent in claiming, isn't countered by Spy, however can reveal himself as the Mafioso due to the Godfather and Mafioso's interaction)

We could argue A vs B Tier, but I'm fine with this placement.

B Tier: 

- (Unlike Consort they don't fully prevent information but only delays information from someone, however is used to fake being visited by the Mafia [Situational since countered by Spy]​, prevents whisper games if presence is established, prevents someone from leading the Town on the right push,somewhat countered by Spy but suffers from not much to claim and can unintentionally protect Neutrals[Faking a BM])

'''I think it's actually one of the most versatile roles. It can claim many roles, due to the versatility of its gameplay style. Yes, Invest is an issue, but that's one role and it isn't necessarily game-changing. You can either choose to not use its ability much and gain the trust of the Town, keeping the ability for the late game, or use it early. Its ability is pretty decent but forces Blackmailer to play a different gameplay style. I personally would rank it higher given your other placements of similar characters, but it's not a bad placement. Though many are likely to not whisper in certain scenarios, the constant threat of the presence of the Blackmailer hinders the Town in exchanging information. If they DO whisper, a Blackmailer can pass this on to the Mafia. '''

- (Can be A tier if there is a Consigliere in the Mafia, wipes off wills from known TI which makes this act like a mini-Janitor,Versatile in claiming, suffers from being heavily reliant on information to gain the ability's full benefit, situational and is heavily countered by Spy if the will was supposed to throw off the Town)

'''Actually, not necessarily the worst placement, but I would put this in D Tier/C Tier, it's just a low utility role. At least Blackmailer can play several niches, but Forger is relegated to a single niche that isn't so great. '''

- (Can give a kill which could give Mafia majority, however the kill is not that consistent/reliable and can be easily countered ,decent in claiming,isn't countered by Spy)

fair

C Tier:

- (Versatile and Flexible in claiming, makes other people look like a Jester in Coven Games by putting them as "Poisoned",Low chance of dying early,suffers from not much to contribute for other Mafia and is heavily countered by Spy)

fair

- (Same as Hypno, Versatile and Flexible in claiming, prevents from being easily found out by the Investigator, can be useful in the correct situation, suffers from not much to contribute for other Mafia and is also heavily countered by Spy)

fair 

D Tier: 

- (Incredibly situational, counters only 2 TI, ok invest result, needs a rework/buff, not much to claim, while you may be able to help by faking a "Framed" claim you're still going to get pushed up for a claim with a potential guilty lynch unless the claim is believable, if not lynched, you are going to be shot by a Vigilante or Executed by the Jailor, also heavily countered by Spy)

​​​​​​​agreed