Board Thread:Role Ideas (Rework)/@comment-35356784-20180617155230/@comment-32994909-20180627020510

Naroki42 wrote: Framer:

- Can visit mafia and appear NS to sheriff ( counter spy and sheriff ). Framed mafia still appear normal to Investigator.

'''Nah, this makes it even more of a hard-counter to. What if there is no in-game? And if there is, would screw it over too much to the point where it cannot even trust its results, anyone who is not suspicious can be a  member who has been framed. I don't like the thing, either. It defeats the purpose of the process of elimination, and there is no way a will be able to tell if the  visited their own. Spy is supposed to counter 's deceptive strategies, e.g. it may be able to tell when a will is forged, can find a who is claiming,  which is claiming  and a framed target which came up as  to a , if  gets countered than nothing can save it.'''

- Frame effect will last 2 night.

Perhaps, framing should last longer than just a night as it's a very rare occasion for and  to visit the same target anywhere outside of Classic.

Disguiser: (major rework)

- Disguise a target and know their role.

Too overpowered, defeats the purpose of .

- You will always disguise as that role until they die, you turn back to Disguiser.

'''Yep, this is pretty good. I don't like the fact that you have to be constantly visiting the same role.'''

- Can only disguise other role after they die.

This makes no sense so I'll reject this.

Forger: (if forge successful) can read target's will at the end of the night and change that will. or write a new will until the dead person reveals will.

​​​​​​​I agree with the part of being able to read the target's will, I have no idea what the rest of that is about.

Done. It fits more with their role name, not just ( Maf ) + Consigliere. Some good ideas here, keep it up!