Talk:Role Claims Guide/@comment-31167053-20170219171851

I've gotta be honest, most of these fake claims are pretty bad advice.

Jailor - can be a perfectly good claim if you know who the real jailor is and you have a witch or consort. Also good in risky situations to lynch the real jailor. If you're being called out as being mafia, you might occasionally want to claim jailor to buy a day - push a mislynch, tell vig to shoot the sheriff, and then you get executed in exchange for killing 1-2 towns, which is better than nothing.

Invest/lookout - a good mafia player can make solid fake wills from this, not just with known info but also by defending mafia members - giving them favorable investigation results, saying they visited people that didn't die, and so on. I've carried quite a few 2-man mafia teams in ranked by claiming Lookout and "confirming" the other mafia as TP, then pulling off mislynches because we're "confirmed".

Escort - this is a really bad claim for consort. It can be an ok claim for mafia if you want to say that you roleblocked other mafia, and it's pretty good for witch too; however, you need to make sure that you whisper to your mafia "I roleblocked you" at the beginning of the day so that they know to claim roleblocked (if you get voted up to the stand and claim escort and the people that you blocked didn't claim at the beginning of the day, you are getting guiltied and you probably just outed your entire mafia). You can also steal a real escort's will to cc them and push a mislynch, especially in a critical scenario. Then maybe accuse them of being disguiser.

Transporter - same as escort with a few bonuses. If you're called out as being mafia early on, say you transported yourself with some random person; they are not going to confirm you, but it nonetheless might push a mislynch of them before you get killed - and even if they don't get mislynched first, they might get lynched later as people might think that they're also mafia. On a related note, I sometimes like to have a transporter fake will half-complete in my will with totally random non-mafia names in it so that people will think those people are mafia when I die.

Survivor/amne - what, this is a terrible claim, right? That's the logic of most people who don't understand the complexity of this, but I would recommend claiming NB once you are confirmed as evil (i.e. Claim an impossible role or something) - many times people will be desperate enough at this point that they'll try to focus on mafia and lynch someone else instead. This is, however, a really bad claim in early game, of course.

Vig - good claim as GF or NK since you don't have to worry about being shot by a real vig, terrible claim as mafioso most cases. It's sometimes fun to instantly claim RT if there's a vet kill or a TK dead on day 2.

Mayor/spy - good fake claims in jail to buy a night so that you don't get executed. Mayor is becoming pretty well-known in high elo, so I've shifted to using spy more often, especially if RM is dead/known.

Ret - well you can usually know who's going to be revived and when, it's usually going to be the strongest role in the graveyard revived on N2. With that info I'm usually able to get my whisper in faster than the real ret if I'm faking ret. It's not really a great claim a lot of the time though (maybe if you clean a ret that night) since it only gives you one mislynch before getting killed, but if jailor is dead or you have consort/witch, it's decent.