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Exactly

Coven sucks at that All roles, or not, can use deception to their advantage (as I said earlier).

The is not as designed for deception as the  is, as in the game setups they find themself in, often times killing power and the  potential for fake claims is far more of an advantage than deception through night actions.

The also has the capability to decieve as well. and claims are perfectly suited to the  as  or  deception is suited to a  or a. can manipulate role claims just like a, and the is perfectly suited for a  or  claim. has the deceptive abilities of a made better by perma-framing and the ability to kill almost everyone on top. can use any dead role in the game to trick the, making almost any claim available. are the only lacking role in deception.