Board Thread:Role Ideas (Neutral)/@comment-78.68.107.156-20170525180007/@comment-31680260-20170605051003

Volf049 wrote:

Vertroyer wrote:

Volf049 wrote: I mean, there are already roles that are almost just copies of other roles, ie godfather and sk. No...just...just...no

They are not almost copies of each other, they're just not, boi.

1-They're in different factions

Weren't you the one who said this wasn't a valid argument when it came to making roles different?(I know this is a contradiction fallacy. Just go with it...)

2-The GF has a night chat with his respective faction, the SK doesn't.

See counterargument uno

3-The SK is above the GF in the stalemate detector.

Well, someone had to be

4-The GF is undetectable by the Sheriff, while the SK is.

Okay, I pretty much forgot about that entirely

5-The SK kills his roleblocker, whether it's an Escort, Consort or a Jailor who doesn't execute. The GF doesn't do that.

'''This is the reason I said ALMOST. We all know that a few differences doesn't make something NOT a copy'''

6-The GF is unique, and you can only become a GF by being promoted from Mafioso. The SK is not unique.

Fair point, although SK is nearly always alone, making it kinda unique in most game modes

7-The GF can't kill directly during the presence of a Mafioso and has to order him to do so in addition to depending on his Mafioso's death note. The SK does all the work by himself.

Not even close to copies, AT ALL.

... Suuuuure The only differences I see is the interactions between other roles... Something to be expected when two roles are in different factions.

Speaking of different factions, I found a better example of almost copies: the ORT sisters. Ya know, escort and consort!

Either way, it's already been stated that in-game roles don't affect new roles. The rules are there for a reason.