Talk:Vampire/@comment-27141904-20151110005658

I hate vampires so much now, even more than witches.

They don't win EVER, all they do is turn attention away from mafia. Basically, if you're a vampire or are converted to a vampire, you're bound to lose.

And this is because devs were too afraid to actually make Vampire a strong role. They could bite every night, they could be immune for Mafia/SK/Vig, they could not have a ridiculous cap of 4 (they don't live with 4 EVER). Any 2 of those qualities would buff them. But no, another good idea turns into a crap (hello Forger and you, WW).

Wanna know why is it affecting me? Custom games are now ruined because everyone wants to have vampires. So 3-4 spots are taken for them, which means other neutrals and possible townies are denied. Chaos now may give you a vampire role only to be killed the first night and curse everyone.

Worst thing? Everyone STILL acts like vampires actually can win often whereas their win rate will be even lower than that of WW. Fact.

/end of rage rant